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<blockquote data-quote="MonkeyBoy" data-source="post: 90415" data-attributes="member: 1229">Re: Re: ...Total Defence; quite right - I actually wondered for a whole minute which term was which, then gave in assuming the right one would filter out <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Flat-Footed / No Dex Bonus; Well you have to sacrifice attacks you could have made, on your action - so you can't do it while flat footed by default (i.e. strike my redundant words!)The no-dex bonus should stand; just like dodge. It reflects the fact that you need to be able to react to attacks to use this.The Rogue ability you refer to is actually the Uncanny Dodge (evasion is an improved save technology), but again this meshes well with the &quot;not when denied dex bonus&quot; clause - just like dodge, if you don't lose the dex bonus away you go...So its both, but only one actually needs stating. I think turning attacks into parries while flat footed would open cans of worms; retroactively losing attacks? how many? what if you DON'T attack? eurgh <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />Compare it to the fact that combat reflexes won't let you set up total defence or expertise before your first action either...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MonkeyBoy, post: 90415, member: 1229"] [b]Re: Re: ...[/b] Total Defence; quite right - I actually wondered for a whole minute which term was which, then gave in assuming the right one would filter out :) Flat-Footed / No Dex Bonus; Well you have to sacrifice attacks you could have made, on your action - so you can't do it while flat footed by default (i.e. strike my redundant words!) The no-dex bonus should stand; just like dodge. It reflects the fact that you need to be able to react to attacks to use this. The Rogue ability you refer to is actually the Uncanny Dodge (evasion is an improved save technology), but again this meshes well with the "not when denied dex bonus" clause - just like dodge, if you don't lose the dex bonus away you go... So its both, but only one actually needs stating. I think turning attacks into parries while flat footed would open cans of worms; retroactively losing attacks? how many? what if you DON'T attack? eurgh :( Compare it to the fact that combat reflexes won't let you set up total defence or expertise before your first action either... [/QUOTE]

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