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<blockquote data-quote="Serpenteye" data-source="post: 1798256" data-attributes="member: 1492"><p>Nearly every creature in the Epic Level Handbook can penetrate Epic DR, but that's not the main point. A DR of 10 or 15 is inconsequential at our levels anyway. The point is that a creature that has both regeneration and DR usually only suffers normal damage from attacks that penetrate the DR and even if the Lyseeri suffers normal damage from Cold Iron weapons Cold iron is not that common. In nine times out of ten (and that's being extremely generous) your character will regenerate any damage inflicted upon it. A CR 30 Atropal cannot kill your character. A CR 57 Hecatoncheires cannot kill your character. A CR 26 Infernal cannot kill your character. A level 90 fighter cannot kill your character unless he's extremely lucky (even if he could overcome her regeneration she could still use one of her innumerable modes of movement to get away). Nearly none (and that's being extremely generous too) of the creatures in the EHB can kill your character, who is immune to nearly every source of damage. Granted, there are ways to kill it but you must admit that they are very limited.</p><p></p><p>How can you possibly justify getting 24 bonus feats from the template? How can you justify the great number of Spell-like and psionic abilities (most of which are defensive or indirect and not hindered by SR)? The Su abilities (SR doesn't apply to them)? The immunities against (nearly) everything? The spellcasting-levels from three unrelated classes? Unearthly Grace? Superior Movement? Perfect Senses? Etc, etc, etc... How can you possibly justify taking a part in revising the Paragon template when your own character is this overpowered? The sheer amount of bonuses and abilities is greater than any five creatures in the Monster Manual. </p><p></p><p>But, whatever. As long as you are all happy...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Serpenteye, post: 1798256, member: 1492"] Nearly every creature in the Epic Level Handbook can penetrate Epic DR, but that's not the main point. A DR of 10 or 15 is inconsequential at our levels anyway. The point is that a creature that has both regeneration and DR usually only suffers normal damage from attacks that penetrate the DR and even if the Lyseeri suffers normal damage from Cold Iron weapons Cold iron is not that common. In nine times out of ten (and that's being extremely generous) your character will regenerate any damage inflicted upon it. A CR 30 Atropal cannot kill your character. A CR 57 Hecatoncheires cannot kill your character. A CR 26 Infernal cannot kill your character. A level 90 fighter cannot kill your character unless he's extremely lucky (even if he could overcome her regeneration she could still use one of her innumerable modes of movement to get away). Nearly none (and that's being extremely generous too) of the creatures in the EHB can kill your character, who is immune to nearly every source of damage. Granted, there are ways to kill it but you must admit that they are very limited. How can you possibly justify getting 24 bonus feats from the template? How can you justify the great number of Spell-like and psionic abilities (most of which are defensive or indirect and not hindered by SR)? The Su abilities (SR doesn't apply to them)? The immunities against (nearly) everything? The spellcasting-levels from three unrelated classes? Unearthly Grace? Superior Movement? Perfect Senses? Etc, etc, etc... How can you possibly justify taking a part in revising the Paragon template when your own character is this overpowered? The sheer amount of bonuses and abilities is greater than any five creatures in the Monster Manual. But, whatever. As long as you are all happy... [/QUOTE]
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