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<blockquote data-quote="shadow" data-source="post: 361660" data-attributes="member: 2182">I am just a little disturbed by the sealed section of the Dragon Magazine.&nbsp; Although I'm aware that D&amp;D in general contains many &quot;mature&quot; elements such as inherent violence, many &quot;icky&quot; monsters, etc, I'm afraid that BoVD will cross the fine line of good taste.&nbsp; Many of the splatbooks already have had dark elements in them (Acolyte of the skin and Pale Lord prestige classes from T&amp;B, The Bane of the Infidels from MotW) so I can hardly see how a &quot;mature&quot; book can go much further and still be in good taste.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm hardly one to criticize others and to try to impose moral standards, but there exists a fine line between what is appropriate and what is just perverted.&nbsp; I think that certain spells in the sealed section crossed that line.&nbsp; I really don't want copulation with corpses in my game.Certain people may say that such things add &quot;realism&quot; or &quot;moral conflict&quot; to the game, or make villians &quot;more three dimensional&quot;.&nbsp; This is just an excuse to defend filth.&nbsp; The core rules alone are perfectly fine for a mature campaign.&nbsp; The &quot;maturity level&quot; of the campaign is set by the DM and players, not a rule set.&nbsp; Rules for spells involving necrophilia and rape aren't mature, they're just sick.Also I'm aware that BoVD is not a core book.&nbsp; With Eminem and computer games being the threat of middle class America, I doubt that BoVD will be much of a threat to D&amp;D (which is still relegated to a fringe hobby).&nbsp; However, I dislike the idea of such a product carrying the official D&amp;D logo.&nbsp; I dislike the idea of necrophilia, sexual perversion, and other vileness being officially associated and sanctioned by D&amp;D.&nbsp; Call me a cynic, but I'm afraid that the success of BoVD could signal a trend for WotC.&nbsp; In the future we could see more and more D&amp;D products going the way of the BoVD, featuring all kinds of perversion and sickness.&nbsp; I really don't want to see all the future books detailing all kinds of vileness.I'll temporarily suspend judgment on BoVD since it isn't out yet, and I'm aware that the sealed section of Dragon wasn't written by Monte.&nbsp; However, if the sealed section was anything like content of BoVD, I'm going to be very disapointed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="shadow, post: 361660, member: 2182"] I am just a little disturbed by the sealed section of the Dragon Magazine. Although I'm aware that D&D in general contains many "mature" elements such as inherent violence, many "icky" monsters, etc, I'm afraid that BoVD will cross the fine line of good taste. Many of the splatbooks already have had dark elements in them (Acolyte of the skin and Pale Lord prestige classes from T&B, The Bane of the Infidels from MotW) so I can hardly see how a "mature" book can go much further and still be in good taste. I'm hardly one to criticize others and to try to impose moral standards, but there exists a fine line between what is appropriate and what is just perverted. I think that certain spells in the sealed section crossed that line. I really don't want copulation with corpses in my game. Certain people may say that such things add "realism" or "moral conflict" to the game, or make villians "more three dimensional". This is just an excuse to defend filth. The core rules alone are perfectly fine for a mature campaign. The "maturity level" of the campaign is set by the DM and players, not a rule set. Rules for spells involving necrophilia and rape aren't mature, they're just sick. Also I'm aware that BoVD is not a core book. With Eminem and computer games being the threat of middle class America, I doubt that BoVD will be much of a threat to D&D (which is still relegated to a fringe hobby). However, I dislike the idea of such a product carrying the official D&D logo. I dislike the idea of necrophilia, sexual perversion, and other vileness being officially associated and sanctioned by D&D. Call me a cynic, but I'm afraid that the success of BoVD could signal a trend for WotC. In the future we could see more and more D&D products going the way of the BoVD, featuring all kinds of perversion and sickness. I really don't want to see all the future books detailing all kinds of vileness. I'll temporarily suspend judgment on BoVD since it isn't out yet, and I'm aware that the sealed section of Dragon wasn't written by Monte. However, if the sealed section was anything like content of BoVD, I'm going to be very disapointed. [/QUOTE]

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