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<blockquote data-quote="Bullgrit" data-source="post: 5593966" data-attributes="member: 31216"><p>Oh for the love of god, people, I have never said this. Disagreeing with me is one thing, but when you have to completely misrepresent what I've actually said in order to do so, or to get others to do so, it's pathetic.</p><p></p><p>Yes, but...... too vague, is my point.</p><p></p><p>My point, which I have stated clearly, many times: "Old School" means something different to different people -- often drastically different, and sometimes contradictorally different. This makes it troublesome and confusing to use when describing a play style. (It seems to work sufficiently when describing an era -- years -- of the game.)</p><p></p><p>Look at this ENWorld poll for an example of what I've been talking to: </p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/260389-defining-old-school-vote.html" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/260389-defining-old-school-vote.html</a></p><p></p><p>Things that some people claim are strictly "Old School" can be found in modern materials. And things that some people claim are strictly "New School" can be found in classic materials. I have presented many examples of this concept, yet some people ignore the examples and instead twist my point into something that I have not said, do not think, and would not support.</p><p></p><p>Disagree or agree with me, at least do so based on what I've actually said. To twist my position is trolling.</p><p></p><p>I love classic D&D, but to believe what some folks say that I've said, you'd never believe it. I've promoted more classic D&D discussion here on ENWorld than most any other poster. Check it out with a simple search of my threads. But it's ironic that some of the people with whom I have the classic experience in common are often constantly trolling me on the subject rather than discussing it with me.</p><p></p><p>Bullgrit</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bullgrit, post: 5593966, member: 31216"] Oh for the love of god, people, I have never said this. Disagreeing with me is one thing, but when you have to completely misrepresent what I've actually said in order to do so, or to get others to do so, it's pathetic. Yes, but...... too vague, is my point. My point, which I have stated clearly, many times: "Old School" means something different to different people -- often drastically different, and sometimes contradictorally different. This makes it troublesome and confusing to use when describing a play style. (It seems to work sufficiently when describing an era -- years -- of the game.) Look at this ENWorld poll for an example of what I've been talking to: [url]http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/260389-defining-old-school-vote.html[/url] Things that some people claim are strictly "Old School" can be found in modern materials. And things that some people claim are strictly "New School" can be found in classic materials. I have presented many examples of this concept, yet some people ignore the examples and instead twist my point into something that I have not said, do not think, and would not support. Disagree or agree with me, at least do so based on what I've actually said. To twist my position is trolling. I love classic D&D, but to believe what some folks say that I've said, you'd never believe it. I've promoted more classic D&D discussion here on ENWorld than most any other poster. Check it out with a simple search of my threads. But it's ironic that some of the people with whom I have the classic experience in common are often constantly trolling me on the subject rather than discussing it with me. Bullgrit [/QUOTE]
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