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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5489405" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>Which explains why comets never leave the oort cloud, they just stay out there and never come where anyone can see them. Right?</p><p></p><p>Sorry, but no. Without a good point of reference free fall might seem like weightlessness, but it's an illusion. For any of the distances we're talking about, gravity is still there, doing its thing. If it wasn't we wouldn't be worrying about maintaining orbital velocities.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In which case the entire idea of using Wall of Stone to turn a boulder you can teleport with into small moon gets tossed out the window.</p><p></p><p>Now, let's start over on this project. How to get an orbital platform...</p><p></p><p>Start by making a lot oc calculations you have no data for, and conclude that at 22,500 miles up an object in stable orbit will circle the world once every 24 hours. Next, grab your boulder and teleport 22,500 miles up. Since you had no motion relative to the planet (we have to use some frame of reference, after all) you'll land with none, meaning that you are now in geosynchronous orbit. You'll have to start at the equator, of course, but that's a relatively small thing.</p><p></p><p>Option 2: Take your boulder and teleport a few thousand miles straight up. Quickly levitate it so it doesn't fall. Now uncork the 12 Decanters of Endless Water you just happened to have with you and point them all in one direction. Set each to "Geyser", which forces 3,500 gallons per minute out that tiny aperature. These are your orbital thrusters. and they never run out of fuel.</p><p></p><p>Presuming you can maintain the Levitate long enough, you'll eventually achieve an orbital velocity. Of course ridiculous calculations will be required to know when you've reached that speed, based on observational data you really can't have, but that's a detail.</p><p></p><p>Now expand your little rock into a real palace in the sky, build your mirror array out of all the sand that you forgot to bring with you, and rule a world you can never safely return to.</p><p></p><p>Oh yeah, did we forget that little detail? Teleporting home will caus a "crash and burn" landing that would make Steve Austin proud. You'll hit at orbital velocity, probably doing more damage than your mirror array would.</p><p></p><p>As a note: The Teleport Circle trick to create a gravity accelerator wouldn't work, even if you did it in space where terminal velocity wasn't an issue. No matter which way you "face" the circle, you aren't aiming the object. It's a tansmitter with no receiver, and it's the receiver that would need to be aimed.</p><p></p><p>On a general note, I'll still argue whether you can Teleport to a location based on distance and direction, rather than actually knowing it. It's not allowed by the spell description, and getting to "know" one particular location in empty space, with no reference points available, just wouldn't be possible, IMHO. Of course, that's just me. Other DM's might be more permissive. I would like to see you try though.</p><p></p><p>Player: "Teleport to the Moon!"</p><p></p><p>DM: "Hmm. you get 100 miles per level, and the moon is 231,000 miles away? So when did you reach level 2,310, and why didn't I know about it?" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>There's no challenge to the project if you figure to break the rules. Doing it within the rules, however, now there's an accomplishment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5489405, member: 6669384"] Which explains why comets never leave the oort cloud, they just stay out there and never come where anyone can see them. Right? Sorry, but no. Without a good point of reference free fall might seem like weightlessness, but it's an illusion. For any of the distances we're talking about, gravity is still there, doing its thing. If it wasn't we wouldn't be worrying about maintaining orbital velocities. In which case the entire idea of using Wall of Stone to turn a boulder you can teleport with into small moon gets tossed out the window. Now, let's start over on this project. How to get an orbital platform... Start by making a lot oc calculations you have no data for, and conclude that at 22,500 miles up an object in stable orbit will circle the world once every 24 hours. Next, grab your boulder and teleport 22,500 miles up. Since you had no motion relative to the planet (we have to use some frame of reference, after all) you'll land with none, meaning that you are now in geosynchronous orbit. You'll have to start at the equator, of course, but that's a relatively small thing. Option 2: Take your boulder and teleport a few thousand miles straight up. Quickly levitate it so it doesn't fall. Now uncork the 12 Decanters of Endless Water you just happened to have with you and point them all in one direction. Set each to "Geyser", which forces 3,500 gallons per minute out that tiny aperature. These are your orbital thrusters. and they never run out of fuel. Presuming you can maintain the Levitate long enough, you'll eventually achieve an orbital velocity. Of course ridiculous calculations will be required to know when you've reached that speed, based on observational data you really can't have, but that's a detail. Now expand your little rock into a real palace in the sky, build your mirror array out of all the sand that you forgot to bring with you, and rule a world you can never safely return to. Oh yeah, did we forget that little detail? Teleporting home will caus a "crash and burn" landing that would make Steve Austin proud. You'll hit at orbital velocity, probably doing more damage than your mirror array would. As a note: The Teleport Circle trick to create a gravity accelerator wouldn't work, even if you did it in space where terminal velocity wasn't an issue. No matter which way you "face" the circle, you aren't aiming the object. It's a tansmitter with no receiver, and it's the receiver that would need to be aimed. On a general note, I'll still argue whether you can Teleport to a location based on distance and direction, rather than actually knowing it. It's not allowed by the spell description, and getting to "know" one particular location in empty space, with no reference points available, just wouldn't be possible, IMHO. Of course, that's just me. Other DM's might be more permissive. I would like to see you try though. Player: "Teleport to the Moon!" DM: "Hmm. you get 100 miles per level, and the moon is 231,000 miles away? So when did you reach level 2,310, and why didn't I know about it?" :) There's no challenge to the project if you figure to break the rules. Doing it within the rules, however, now there's an accomplishment. [/QUOTE]
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