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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5489777" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>Would you care to try "flying like Superman" at 18,000 mph (geosynchronous orbital velocity) without Superman's invulnerability? All you do is become a lower altitude meteor show. You'd be torn to pieces by the wind, even if you had enough Fire Resistance to survive the heat. </p><p></p><p></p><p>So you grabbed and teleported a stone foundation via Astral Projection? Then somehow accelerated it to orbital velocity? And somehow managed to keep up with it long enough to cast all those Wall of Stone spells to convert it into an orbital platform, all from another plane? Have you looked at the movement rules for Astral space? It's driven by Intelligence, and a +14 isn't going to take you to the speeds you need. </p><p></p><p>Most of what you've proposed can't be cast across planes, so this one is a non-starter.</p><p></p><p>Have you considered this idea? Astral Projection to separate body from spirit, then Plane Shift to bring the spirit back to the Prime Material in a material form. Relatively cheap life insurance.</p><p></p><p>As for Overland Flight to orbital heights: Overland flight has a speed of 40 feet per round. That's about 4.5 mph, give or take a few decimal places. You're going several thousand miles, at least. Let's play with 22,500 (Geosynchronous orbit) instead of 231,000 (Moon at Perigee), just to be nice.</p><p></p><p>You need to stay flying, and awake, 5,000 hours, which is 208.33 days, or a bit more than eight months. </p><p></p><p>Oh wait, double that, since you climb at half speed. Lends a whole new meaning to the phrase "<em>fall</em> asleep", doesn't it? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>And Overland Flying to the moon? Multiply 10, to keep things simple.</p><p></p><p>Consider a Carpet of Flying instead. Same speed, 800 lb carrying capacity for the largest one, and it never has to rest, even if you do. It can even respond to commands given when you aren't on it, so long as it's within the sound of your voice. And we'll ignore the problem about the "sound of your voice" having a zero range in the vacuum of space. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>It's still going to take you years each way to even start creating a master weapon that can be destroyed with a slingshot.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, agreed, you could Greater Teleport to the moon. I thought I already agreed with that idea. It was popping into a point in empty space that I objected to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5489777, member: 6669384"] Would you care to try "flying like Superman" at 18,000 mph (geosynchronous orbital velocity) without Superman's invulnerability? All you do is become a lower altitude meteor show. You'd be torn to pieces by the wind, even if you had enough Fire Resistance to survive the heat. So you grabbed and teleported a stone foundation via Astral Projection? Then somehow accelerated it to orbital velocity? And somehow managed to keep up with it long enough to cast all those Wall of Stone spells to convert it into an orbital platform, all from another plane? Have you looked at the movement rules for Astral space? It's driven by Intelligence, and a +14 isn't going to take you to the speeds you need. Most of what you've proposed can't be cast across planes, so this one is a non-starter. Have you considered this idea? Astral Projection to separate body from spirit, then Plane Shift to bring the spirit back to the Prime Material in a material form. Relatively cheap life insurance. As for Overland Flight to orbital heights: Overland flight has a speed of 40 feet per round. That's about 4.5 mph, give or take a few decimal places. You're going several thousand miles, at least. Let's play with 22,500 (Geosynchronous orbit) instead of 231,000 (Moon at Perigee), just to be nice. You need to stay flying, and awake, 5,000 hours, which is 208.33 days, or a bit more than eight months. Oh wait, double that, since you climb at half speed. Lends a whole new meaning to the phrase "[I]fall[/I] asleep", doesn't it? :) And Overland Flying to the moon? Multiply 10, to keep things simple. Consider a Carpet of Flying instead. Same speed, 800 lb carrying capacity for the largest one, and it never has to rest, even if you do. It can even respond to commands given when you aren't on it, so long as it's within the sound of your voice. And we'll ignore the problem about the "sound of your voice" having a zero range in the vacuum of space. :) It's still going to take you years each way to even start creating a master weapon that can be destroyed with a slingshot. Oh, agreed, you could Greater Teleport to the moon. I thought I already agreed with that idea. It was popping into a point in empty space that I objected to. [/QUOTE]
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