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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 7651462" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>I'm pretty sure the "fake geek girl" thing comes from the same place as the old cliche of the guy in the pub who gets shot down by an attractive woman and therefore tells his mates that she's a lesbian. Or, indeed, the nice guys/jerks dichotomy.</p><p></p><p>It's about salving wounded pride - it's not that <em>you're</em> unattractive, it's that <em>she's</em> not attracted to men, or <em>she's</em> only attracted to bastards, or <em>she's</em> a fake. As long as there's something external to blame, it saves you from facing some unpalatable truth.</p><p></p><p>And just as there is such a thing as a lesbian (though the woman in the pub in the first paragraph almost certainly wasn't one), there probably is such a thing as a "fake geek girl". Indeed, saying that shouldn't even be all that controversial - it's not exactly news that some (generally young) women sometimes pretend to be something they're not for the attention. (As, indeed, do men.)</p><p></p><p>But saying they exist is not the same as saying they're common - they're not. And it certainly doesn't make it any less offensive to describe someone as a "fake" because she doesn't welcome your advances. Or to deploy your oh-so-clever "fake geek girl test".</p><p></p><p>(Hell, it's probably offensive to assume that a woman at a convention would be open to being hit on at all. I daresay that in many cases she'd much rather be left alone to enjoy the convention. Having, very occasionally, been the target of unwanted attention, I'm quite aware that it's actually not as much fun as you might think.)</p><p></p><p>And I think that's why there's plenty of noise about "fake geek girls" and almost none about "fake geek guys" - it's being driven by heterosexual males. They're not attracted to geek guys, fake or otherwise, so they don't much care. Which is unfair, and sexist, and offensive, but there it is. Sorry; men suck sometimes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 7651462, member: 22424"] I'm pretty sure the "fake geek girl" thing comes from the same place as the old cliche of the guy in the pub who gets shot down by an attractive woman and therefore tells his mates that she's a lesbian. Or, indeed, the nice guys/jerks dichotomy. It's about salving wounded pride - it's not that [i]you're[/i] unattractive, it's that [i]she's[/i] not attracted to men, or [i]she's[/i] only attracted to bastards, or [i]she's[/i] a fake. As long as there's something external to blame, it saves you from facing some unpalatable truth. And just as there is such a thing as a lesbian (though the woman in the pub in the first paragraph almost certainly wasn't one), there probably is such a thing as a "fake geek girl". Indeed, saying that shouldn't even be all that controversial - it's not exactly news that some (generally young) women sometimes pretend to be something they're not for the attention. (As, indeed, do men.) But saying they exist is not the same as saying they're common - they're not. And it certainly doesn't make it any less offensive to describe someone as a "fake" because she doesn't welcome your advances. Or to deploy your oh-so-clever "fake geek girl test". (Hell, it's probably offensive to assume that a woman at a convention would be open to being hit on at all. I daresay that in many cases she'd much rather be left alone to enjoy the convention. Having, very occasionally, been the target of unwanted attention, I'm quite aware that it's actually not as much fun as you might think.) And I think that's why there's plenty of noise about "fake geek girls" and almost none about "fake geek guys" - it's being driven by heterosexual males. They're not attracted to geek guys, fake or otherwise, so they don't much care. Which is unfair, and sexist, and offensive, but there it is. Sorry; men suck sometimes. [/QUOTE]
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