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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8560409" data-attributes="member: 57383">Sounds like we're in agreement.Well Echinoderms don't really have central nervous systems per se. If I remember correctly the various "starfish" have a circular nerve that runs around the base of their arms and the rest of their nerves are distributed about their body & limbs.They are able to learn conditioned reflexes, so they're not entirely mindless.Anyhow, I was thinking we ought to give them some Condition Immunities to reflect their unusual biology. Maybe immunity to blinded*, charmed and deafened?Unlike oozes, they should be subject to exhaustion and prone (starfish seem to dislike being flipped over and prioritize righting themselves).Not sure about frightened. A brittle star or sea star will try to flee a threat which suggests a capacity to feel fear, so I guess we should leave that in.*Regarding immunity to being blinded, while some Echinoderms have visual organs (arrays of occuli scattered about their body, simple eyes on the tips of their arms) these don't seem to be very acute. They can only see light and dark, so at best they'll detect the shadow of a predator or the like. They mainly sense their surrounding by touch and taste/smell, which is well represented by the blindsight and tremorsense you've given them.As for deafened, I'm not even sure whether a brittle star can hear in the first place.What else is there. Sleep? Stunned? Unconsciousness? If an ooze is subject to those in 5E I'd think an Echinoderm ought to be too.</blockquote>

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