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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 7662507" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>Truthfully, re: Artificer as Bard, how "clunky" is the story, really? The "College of Artifice". More of a merchandising/vocational guild, than "college", really. But the premise is the same. Practically a "sub-school/division" of the College of Lore. The artificers go to these vocational centers to learn their secret/guarded/unique lore & craft and then wander/explore the adventuring world in pursuit of [among any number of other reasons] expanding their knowledge, understanding and power of that lore & craft. </p><p></p><p>As a Bard subclass, I think it fits quite well. Plus granting folks the added armor and weapon stuff without having to rewrite/add in things to the wizard [that it really shouldn't have], the access to tools and skills is easy enough to do (if, say, you feel Thieves' Tools are essential to the artificer archetype).</p><p></p><p>I keep forgetting about this. But it really does sound like the best fit for Artificer users/fans. If it's not a Wizard subclass, it should be a Bard one.</p><p></p><p>I will continue to believe that, as a setting-specific class and the actual abilities of the archetype, it really should not be/does not warrant its own class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 7662507, member: 92511"] Truthfully, re: Artificer as Bard, how "clunky" is the story, really? The "College of Artifice". More of a merchandising/vocational guild, than "college", really. But the premise is the same. Practically a "sub-school/division" of the College of Lore. The artificers go to these vocational centers to learn their secret/guarded/unique lore & craft and then wander/explore the adventuring world in pursuit of [among any number of other reasons] expanding their knowledge, understanding and power of that lore & craft. As a Bard subclass, I think it fits quite well. Plus granting folks the added armor and weapon stuff without having to rewrite/add in things to the wizard [that it really shouldn't have], the access to tools and skills is easy enough to do (if, say, you feel Thieves' Tools are essential to the artificer archetype). I keep forgetting about this. But it really does sound like the best fit for Artificer users/fans. If it's not a Wizard subclass, it should be a Bard one. I will continue to believe that, as a setting-specific class and the actual abilities of the archetype, it really should not be/does not warrant its own class. [/QUOTE]
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