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<blockquote data-quote="vongarr" data-source="post: 7662692" data-attributes="member: 53022">When you say background, I reckon you mean it in the sense of 5e and it's associated backgrounds? Not in the real world sense?If that is the case, then I would agree. Blue collar can be a function of background, but it is certainly also a function of class. Applying modern concepts to fantastical or historical concepts is often a fools enterprise, so I'm not going to try and say a Paladin is white collar while a Rogue is blue. At the end of the day they are both crawling through mud and guts. The distinction is one of approach and of motivation. I'm ultimately arguing a series of finer and finer points that all have to do with &quot;feels&quot; and I would contend that looking at what the original Artificer had in 3.5, and if you were to apply these concepts to a 5e class, it would be relatively clear that these share more with a Rogue than a Wizard.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vongarr, post: 7662692, member: 53022"] When you say background, I reckon you mean it in the sense of 5e and it's associated backgrounds? Not in the real world sense? If that is the case, then I would agree. Blue collar can be a function of background, but it is certainly also a function of class. Applying modern concepts to fantastical or historical concepts is often a fools enterprise, so I'm not going to try and say a Paladin is white collar while a Rogue is blue. At the end of the day they are both crawling through mud and guts. The distinction is one of approach and of motivation. I'm ultimately arguing a series of finer and finer points that all have to do with "feels" and I would contend that looking at what the original Artificer had in 3.5, and if you were to apply these concepts to a 5e class, it would be relatively clear that these share more with a Rogue than a Wizard. [/QUOTE]

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