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Message: <blockquote data-quote="grimslade" data-source="post: 6344130" data-attributes="member: 6061">I don't know. It is apples and oranges. The BB has a lot more stuff in it, but it needs all that stuff. It feels more like a board game and at its price point and has all the detritus of a board game, dice, tokens, maps and such. Lots of stuff is great, but it is its own burden too. The complexity and depth of Pathfinder is better expressed with having all the stuff. The Starter Set is a hat tip to older editions, but it is also a pared down experience. It is a much more mobile game. You don't even need a table necessarily, just room for friends and a flat surface to roll on. It can be played on a playground during recess, in a tent camping, on a long car ride (DM can not be the driver) or at a table. The price point is a big difference. If you are looking to try a new game, $20 vs $50 is a big difference. RPGs are different from any other game on the shelf. I think  there is room for both sets, but the systems are different. Pathfinder needs the complexity and clabber that goes with a 3.x style game. The fact that they do it well is not a surprise and greatly helps the over all experience.The Starter set needs to give an experience, a taste of what is to come. It is inexpensive, but a solid product to lead in to the big 3.</blockquote>