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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tormyr" data-source="post: 6579147" data-attributes="member: 6776887">Second Wind is not a limit of 1/hour or 1/minute or any other time measurement. It is once per Short Rest which is a game mechanic that has a definition and recommended usage.In scenario 1 the party must have been in pretty good condition to be able to whittle down an unexpected dragon to the point where a single hit/turn from the fighter finished it off. At that point, 10 hp on the fighter when everyone else is unconscious is luck and a good story as much as anything.The second scenario has to be different from the first because the party is on fumes and already took a first short rest. If the party is chaining together short rests, then they could continue healing using the various methods in play and call the whole thing one short rest.  If stuff happened after the first short rest that caused party resources to go down, that fits in with the DMG suggestion of a second short rest kicking in. At that point, more healing can be used. If the party somehow ran out of resources by the time the second short rest should come up, so that a short rest would not help, then the party needs to find a good place to take a long rest. If the party was restricted from chaining two short rests together, then the only difference between scenario 1 and 2 would be the 10 hp the fighter picked up from the second Second Wind.Neither of these scenarios is a good argument for the abuse of Second Wind by taking multiple short rests chained together. In the first scenario, only two short rests were taken. If they were chained together, then only difference in the party's situation would be the 5.5 + fighter level hp from second wind. That could have been made up from many other means. In the second scenario, the party was weak enough that a single breath attack took out everyone but the fighter.  If not being able to chain a second short wind from a second short rest is the only difference between scenario 1 and 2, then the party would not be wiped out in scenario 2 on the first attack, or the party would not have survived in scenario 1 long enough for the dragon to be felled by 1 last turn from the fighter because the whole party minus the fighter was wiped out by the first breath attack. If the first and second short rest were not chained together, then these scenarios have nothing to do with abusing Second Wind by chaining together Short Rests anyway.</blockquote>

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