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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 6095023" data-attributes="member: 98255">I find this to be fiddly, personally. I never liked tracking non-lethal damage, so I find the application to be rather clunky, but you probably just "get used to it" eventually.It accomplishes some of the same goals as a surge mechanic, but for me, your system is much less useful, since I use surges to represent other things in my game; they're not just for "healing" - they're an important resource. I use them for fueling ritual magic and for recharging powers. To me, and in my campaigns, they really represent "stamina" in the truest sense.I also take issue with the HP = meat approach. It just causes the kind of jarring game/fiction disconnect in my brain that CaGI does for others.I'm not disparaging your approach; clearly for you this works, but it won't work for what I want to do. These are the kind of options I want in the game though; we should both be able to have our way if they do it right <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I like this approach much better. Next time I play AD&D I will even suggest that the DM give it a look. It doesn't break my brain with "HP as meat", it's simple, and it is adjustable. It does create a bit of a "Death Spiral" but some folks are okay with that, and in the context of AD&D it probably wouldn't matter as much.That said, in 4e anything above a light injury would relegate most builds to warming the benches, and in a "bounded accuracy" system like Next is shooting for, any kind of attack penalty is going to make you really feel it. I know the numbers can be "played with" but it would have a major effect on the system assumptions (this is why I think them not factoring magic plusses into the system is a risky proposition).The downside of this approach for me personally, is the same as the above - it doesn't represent stamina as a resource to spend as well as healing surges do in my current game (I have houserules for this that I posted <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?334409-Nemesis-Destiny-s-Houserules-Thread&p=6085586#post6085586" target="_blank">here</a>). Under this system, I'd have to have a hit point cost to represent recharging and ritual magic, which is doable, since surges also effectively have a converted hit point cost, but a healing surge nicely breaks it down into small, manageable units.I find there is also less potential here for the "dramatic turnaround" that things like Second Wind with surges can provide. Though, as you say, this can be worked in. I would prefer to do it in non-class specific ways, but there can be options for that, too.Overall, I think it's a pretty good stab at it! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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