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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 4664319" data-attributes="member: 30001"><p>For the moment it might be possible to set aside the issue with drawing a weapon because I think you might be able to just consider the case of a fighter holding a weapon in each hand. No drawing necessary. </p><p> </p><p>(I think it's pretty obvious that you can't perform an action (like draw) in mid-action if it's not a free action. As far as Quick Draw goes, *if* a secondary attack could be with a different weapon, then I would think that Quick Draw would let you draw during that action, since it says you can draw as "part of the same action used to attack with the weapon", and since you're attacking with the secondary weapon, then you could Quick Draw it.)</p><p> </p><p>I don't see anything in the rules that says what exactly a secondary attack is. It seems to me more of a mechanic than an actual happening in the game. In the case of drow poison, for instance, the "attack" really isn't another swing, but just what a "saving throw" would have been in prior editions against some secondary effect. Other powers make it seem like you're actually taking another physical swing.</p><p> </p><p>You can infer some things from indirect evidence (ex. they don't say that a secondary attack can be with a different weapon) and the fact that when they let you attack with two different weapons in the same round they call this out.</p><p> </p><p>One could say "no you can't" or "yes you can" but I can do that too since I'm the DM. So that doesn't seem to change where this stands right now. I was wondering if the rules had a clarification on this. I suppose the next step is to put in a question to customer service or try to snag a WotC person here into answering this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 4664319, member: 30001"] For the moment it might be possible to set aside the issue with drawing a weapon because I think you might be able to just consider the case of a fighter holding a weapon in each hand. No drawing necessary. (I think it's pretty obvious that you can't perform an action (like draw) in mid-action if it's not a free action. As far as Quick Draw goes, *if* a secondary attack could be with a different weapon, then I would think that Quick Draw would let you draw during that action, since it says you can draw as "part of the same action used to attack with the weapon", and since you're attacking with the secondary weapon, then you could Quick Draw it.) I don't see anything in the rules that says what exactly a secondary attack is. It seems to me more of a mechanic than an actual happening in the game. In the case of drow poison, for instance, the "attack" really isn't another swing, but just what a "saving throw" would have been in prior editions against some secondary effect. Other powers make it seem like you're actually taking another physical swing. You can infer some things from indirect evidence (ex. they don't say that a secondary attack can be with a different weapon) and the fact that when they let you attack with two different weapons in the same round they call this out. One could say "no you can't" or "yes you can" but I can do that too since I'm the DM. So that doesn't seem to change where this stands right now. I was wondering if the rules had a clarification on this. I suppose the next step is to put in a question to customer service or try to snag a WotC person here into answering this. [/QUOTE]
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