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<blockquote data-quote="tensen" data-source="post: 1756858" data-attributes="member: 3022">Yes. the whole 2 minutes standing in a 5 foot sqaure looking for a secret door well tends to irk the rest of the party... especially if they turn around and say, &quot;Nope, nothing to see here.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; Of course it explains why party rogues end up getting lost of extra treasure...&nbsp; the rest of the party keeps ignoring them when they spend minutes looking for secret doors... or secret compartments in the chest &quot;Hey was that chest half empty when you started looking at it?&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Personally I don't have a problem with the elves having the ability to see secret doors..&nbsp; But as for having the cosmopolitan ability in search, just because the elf wanted to see the secret doors, I think that is where your DM failed.&nbsp;&nbsp; As a party, I'd point out to the elf that he now has point, and needs to search for the traps.&nbsp; (Pointing out the disadvatnage of being better at searching for things.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tensen, post: 1756858, member: 3022"] Yes. the whole 2 minutes standing in a 5 foot sqaure looking for a secret door well tends to irk the rest of the party... especially if they turn around and say, "Nope, nothing to see here." Of course it explains why party rogues end up getting lost of extra treasure... the rest of the party keeps ignoring them when they spend minutes looking for secret doors... or secret compartments in the chest "Hey was that chest half empty when you started looking at it?" Personally I don't have a problem with the elves having the ability to see secret doors.. But as for having the cosmopolitan ability in search, just because the elf wanted to see the secret doors, I think that is where your DM failed. As a party, I'd point out to the elf that he now has point, and needs to search for the traps. (Pointing out the disadvatnage of being better at searching for things.) [/QUOTE]

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