Seduction skill challenges

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Two ideas :

1) a lone PC trying to seduce a cute girl or princess (or a villain?)

2) a PC trying to seduce somebody with the help of his buddies

Which skills would you allow? How would you allow the PC's buddies to help him achieve his goal? Could there be diff levels of success? Easy, make him/her a little infatuated with ya; normal make him/her love/like ya a lot ; hard make her/him want to go all the way with ya even on the 1st encounter; impossible, make him/her even go against his/her beliefs?

Diplomacy seems a given. Bluff? Insight? Something else?
 

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I'd say it be a combination...

Diplomacy, Insight and Bluff.

I could see others helping with Bluff ("yeah one time he...", etc) and Insight (*nudges you when she smiles*)
 

Athletics: Impress the target at the jousting tournament/sports contest.
Bluff: Convince the target you come from noble blood, are wealthy, are a great hero, well-learned, or whatever they'd find attractive. Disguise your true motives.
Arcana/Dungeoneering/Nature/Religion: Could apply if the target is non-human (e.g. Arcana to seduce a fey).
Diplomacy: Use proper etiquette to impress the target with your good graces and wit.
History: Observe the proper cultural mores regarding romance long enough to establish trust.
Insight: Read the target's body language to time your advances.
Thievery: Perform a delicate sleight of hand trick, allowing you to brush against your target. Only use toward end of challenge.

Is there context? As in, seducing in order to... steal something from them, trick them into helping you, dishonor their family name, etc.
If no objective, then it's not mechanically important enough to warrant a skill challenge and can be handled with a single check.
 

I don't know what the FIRST few skill challenges are, but the LAST one is endurance!

Or acrobatics.

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all night.

EDIT: Also, it's a shame that they got rid of Perform, given those situations wherein the target in question has lost that lovin' feeling. >.>
 

Gah, it's times like this that make me miss my James Bond RPG (which is in storage at the moment). Since it is the Bond RPG, of course it had rules for seduction, which was performed in a number of stages. I think it went something like "The Look", "Opening Line", "Small talk", "Deeper Conversation", and "Your place or mine?".
 

Quickleaf said:
Is there context? As in, seducing in order to...

Example : in KotS a player trying to seduce Ninaran at the inn. His motives might not be special at first beside "scoring" and just flirting around, but it may very well have repercussions on the adventure at hand.

I am not gonna be a player in that one (as I am gonna DM it), and I don't think the players for that campaign are gonna be players that are gonna use of that style of play for their characters. But if I was the player? You bet I would. At least half of the characters I usually create would.
 


You're less likely to attract the attention of mortals when you feed if you seduce them first and only take a little sip.

Wait..

Different game.
 

Quickleaf said:
Athletics: Impress the target at the jousting tournament/sports contest.
Bluff: Convince the target you come from noble blood, are wealthy, are a great hero, well-learned, or whatever they'd find attractive. Disguise your true motives.
Arcana/Dungeoneering/Nature/Religion: Could apply if the target is non-human (e.g. Arcana to seduce a fey).
Diplomacy: Use proper etiquette to impress the target with your good graces and wit.
History: Observe the proper cultural mores regarding romance long enough to establish trust.
Insight: Read the target's body language to time your advances.
Thievery: Perform a delicate sleight of hand trick, allowing you to brush against your target. Only use toward end of challenge.

I'm with Fallen Seraph. Bluff, Diplomacy and Insight.
I'm quoting you as a reminder that all your suggestions are valid by the "if there is a good reason, every skill can be used once". I might not allow all of your suggestions as stated, but some I would and the others are pretty close to being acceptable even by someone like me ;)
 


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