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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 299086" data-attributes="member: 2829">No. It answers the question. You just don't get it.This is how I handle it in my games.See previous "cheetah" post for more info.Wrong. That claim is how it's been run for me, not by me.No they aren't.I did.Fine. Let's try this again...You are standing there with a Hallucinatory Terrain in front of you. You have True Seeing going. You do not see the illusion. Why? True Seeing negates the illusion. Hallucinatory Terrain allows a save (disbelief) when you interact with it. There is no interaction needed on your part because you see through the illusion. Your magic cancels out the terrain's magic, thus, the spell fails against you.According to the DM that runs this game that my character exhists in, when I look at the Hallucinatory Terrain, it automatically fails against me for the aforementioned reasons. The True Seeing spell allows my mind to recognize the truth of what I see, and if the truth of what I see is that there is not a forest in front of me, then there is not a forest in front of me, thus the spell fails. If the truth of what I see is that there is not a Great Red Dragon in front of me, even if I could hear the roar (which I can't, because there isn't even a dragon there), then there is not a Great Red Dragon in front of me.In that game, with my character, I simply don't see illusions, as they have no affect on me. I also don't hear the audibal portions of the illusion either. Why? The spell failed, for the aforementioned reasons. I don't feel the tactile portions of the illusion either. Why? The spell failed, for the aforementioned reasons. I don't smell the scents of the illusion. Why? The spell failed, for the aforementioned reasons.That's not how I run it, but I never had the chance to explain that, as you locked onto how it is run for me like a rapid dog, so we've spent this entire time discussing how I don't run it, but how it is run for me. Do I have a problem with how it is run for me? No. The game is fun and my True Sight ability still works. It works differently, but it works.I can easily see the way it is run for me as being one interpretation of the spell description, and an accurate one at that. However, my own method is also accurate per the spell description. But how I run it hasn't come up until now.Which I did, whether you like it or not.That's what I've been telling you.Yes, I did, but again, you just didn't get it.Whether or not my answer was "reasonable" is your opinion. It could be that you were too preoccupied with simply arguing to pause and consider exactly what I said."non-substantiated" to you, simply because you didn't get it.You're wrong. I "dummied" up my answer enough that even a baboon can understand it now.Whatever.Then I guess I only think that you're a baboon. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> My answer makes sense to me. If it doesn't make sense to you, that doesn't mean a damn thing, except that you're having an unusually difficult time understanding it.What I have been "avoiding like the plague" is repeating myself. I hate that.No. What you want is an answer that you like, which you're not going to get. You want me to agree with you on your viewpoint of See Invisibility and True Seeing, and I won't. Know why? Because I believe that I'm right and you're wrong. So, why the hell would I agree with you if you're wrong? I wouldn't.Of course, you might also simply want a so-called "clear cut" answer, though I already provided one. So, I've been forced to give you an answer worthy of a D&D for Dummies book.If my latest answer isn't enough for you, I don't know what else to tell you except to seek help. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />For god's sake, tell me this is finally over. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> PS: At the very least, this is somewhat entertaining. <img src="http://home.attbi.com/~kbreynolds/emoticons/pop.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></blockquote>

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