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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hawk Diesel" data-source="post: 7312955" data-attributes="member: 59848">That's also a decent way to handle that. I tend to provide a themed spell list like domain spells, providing 2 additional spells for spell levels 1 through 5. I find that's a decent way to provide sorcerers with relevant spells while giving them flexibility to branch outside their bloodline. I think either option is a good way to handle that.That may help higher level sorcerers. But Bards, in addition to being full casters with their archetype abilities and bardic inspiration also get better armor and weapon proficiencies and a higher hit die. Besides, classically in 3rd edition the balance between wizards and sorcerers was that wizards got fewer spell slots but had more spells to choose from, whereas sorcerers were more limited in their spell selection, but could cast more often and spontaneously. Now that all casters are spontaneous casters, wizards cast more spells and have more spells to choose from, and sorcerers get metamagic? Metamagic is good, but it doesn't quite go far enough IMO. Especially since more metamagic options only allow you to apply a single metamagic option at a time. Now, with your version where sorcerers get more spells known, it helps the balance a bit at those lower levels. But I feel like more could be done. So here's an interesting thing to consider. At level 20, over a short rest a wizard can recover a total of 10 spell slots (likely two 5th level spell slots). If using flexible casting to create spell slots, a 20th level sorcerer can create two 5th level spell slots and one 4th level spell slot. Sorcerers get a bit more out of the deal since this pool is split between creating spell slots and metamagic. Also, the spell conversion to create spell slots with flexible casting is the exact same as what is used for the spell point variant in the DMG. Lets assume both wizards and sorcerers were using the spell point system. By level 20, both would get 133 spell points. Based on this system, a wizard using Arcane Recovery would recover 14 spell points. So in an adventuring day, a Wizard gets a total of 147 spell points to use on spells. They only have to use that resource for spells.Now what if we said that sorcerers just skip all that. Their power comes in metamagic AND flexibility of spell slots. They get a single resource of Spell Points, and it increases by 20 (1 per level). Unlike other classes using spell points, they gain the ability to create a max of two 6th level spell slots, two 7th level spell slots, and one of each for 8th and 9th. At this point, I don't know that sorcerers need an equivalent to spell master or signature spell. They have a ton of spell points to give them access to more high level spell slots, and flexibility to use metamagic when it benefits. As all casters are spontaneous casters, the sorcerer returns to the flexibility and raw power that it represented in previous editions. If your sorcerer wants to eschew metamagic and just cast continuous spells, they can bring the fire power. If they need to adapt their magic, they can use the metamagic options. Now this makes Sorcerous Restoration a bit more worthwhile. Though I might change it to this:Sorcerous RestorationAt 20th level, you regain a number of spell points equal to twice your Charisma modifier whenever you finish a short rest. This cannot bring you above your normal maximum spell point total.Mind you I am not sure if any of this would be balanced and have not thoroughly thought through the potential uses/abuses. But it is interesting to consider. Also, important to note that in my Homebrew, the Signature Spell ability works more like Spell Mastery, allowing two 3rd level spells to be cast at their lowest spell level without consuming a spell slot at will.</blockquote>

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