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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sekhmet" data-source="post: 5654897" data-attributes="member: 97602">While that may be true, the simple fact remains that an 8th level Paladin will -feel- that he is less heroic than the 10th level Fighter. I've seen it happen dozens of times, even in 3.5. It is the primary reason TSR and Wizards moved away from the individual experience point system.I'm not arguing that thieves were very weak in comparison to the other classes. Being billed as a front line combatant and given nothing to help you survive or fight is amazingly problematic. I'm simply stating that having large differences in levels in a party becomes problematic, as people begin to gravitate outwards from the central point. If a Thief is level 10, he'll want to be doing things that a level 10 character should be doing, which is not at all what a level 7 should be up to.The fact remains that as an 11th level thief who owns a stronghold with 20 followers, you have other things to do than picking locks in a dungeon crawl with a party of level 7s and 8s.  You're a busy man, your talents are more useful elsewhere.</blockquote>