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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5506128" data-attributes="member: 75065">Tricky situation from your position.As a DM that likes to know the rules and then bend them to my own taste (but always doing so transparantly with player consensus and consistency) that has begun to play as well with other players totally unfamiliar with 4e system, I am never sure how much to say or correct when I see blatant errors (i.e rolling saving throws and adding dex bonus to see if enemy is pushed off bridge or new wizard, level 2, taking an epic feat that allows the recharge of a daily power etc etc).I know its not my place. But I do want play to be fair for everyone including myself. I have usually done this after a game session via email (we play online) and left the decision in the DMs hands. Thankfully my DM is totally cool with that and takes measures to gently correct those errors. The problem you have is that the DM has told you he doesn't think that is his role. Which means there is noone to take the responsibility to gently resolve the issue out or in game (because this IS the DMs role whether he likes it or not). I'm REALLY surprised that a DM you've been playing with together as a group for 10 years (that's a really long time!) wouldn't want to help resolve an issue one of those players has even if that means 'confronting' another player. Obviously 'confrontation' is the problem, not something he personally wants to have to deal with. I'd also be REALLY surprised that he'd not care if you left over this issue. Maybe you should ask him if he cares or not?Or you could take a few levels of Barbarian and see what the other players think, or a level of troll ? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ... it may start a snow ball that disentegrates the group though. But I'm sure you'd get your point across. 'I was at the market and found an endless supply of regenerative Troll Salve hidden beneath a loose stone. Now I have a continuous Regerration 10 and gain access to Barbarians Daily Rages!'I had an issue with another player in my group. His character absolutely hated mine. Everytime my character opened his mouth his character began groaning, rollinging eyes, pffting etc. My character has CHA 8, so I play him as a bit of big mouth that more often than not gets himself into hot water needlessly. So I was okay with this dislike as it made sense. But it reached a stage when the reaction spilled into the 'out-of-character' realm, and I felt that who he didn't like was me. SO I sent him a mail asking him if this was the case, saying that I hope it wasn't and explaining a bit why I played my character that way etc etc and adding that it was fine for me that his character disliked mine, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't personal. 2 weeks later he left the group claiming time was an issue. May have been true, I'll never know. But boy, that was a weight off my shoulders! If your DM says its not his problem ... well, for you it's a problem ... which makes it your problem alone. That's a green light for 'You have my blessing to resolve this problem' if you think about it in a round a bout way. So why not talk to this guy and let him know how his 'making <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> up that his character can do' is affecting your enjoyment.</blockquote>

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