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Message: <blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 6029372" data-attributes="member: 1325">You also ignore some suggestions that affect your calculations: 1) It is a given that the players cannot do battle as they typically do. In the situation at hand, in a battle of Themopylae type scenario: They will have to rely on more non-magical, or longer lasting effects, will need to prepare properly. Which includes prepping the battleground (various traps, funnels, etc), stocking up on items usables, and on friends (Such can be acquired via Charm Monster). Given the scenario, I don't think it would have been too much to give the party 3-4 days to prepare: Adequate time to build traps, shape the battlefield.2) stoneskin and shield other. Low protective wall.Smart choice of weapons/location: Funneling opposition into overlapping reach weapons. (I'm assuming it wasn't just "the party" vs the persians. ) The grunts die before they even get to the High Level party fighter.As a side note I'd not allow Book of Exalted/Vile Cheese for mundane 3rd level NPC bards. Sorry. Exalted happens to be a bit more special in my campaign, but if you really do wish to massacre your PC's,... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Neither am I too familiar with the MW War drum. I'm sure it is in one of the later non-Core 3 booksI did notice that Bardic music states "Concentration + 5 rounds" and at 3rd level the default is +1 to hit and damage, (so I'm curious about those extra feats, not being at home and able to check up anything beyond the SRD at the moment). And if he has that affect at 3rd level, he is going to be the first person killed by the party. Or an NPC 3rd level bard countersinging, every 55 feet along the frontline... (goose-gander kind of thing). Or shock-horror, 1 with his own set of MW War Drums. Which is why I stated: "It would have been nice to have seen this idea fleshed out more, with higher ranks earning a larger radius, and greater effect, and multpile auras, but sadly, no such luck. Of course it could be worked out."Meaning, the DM needs to work on what is basically an interesting idea seed to make it work!</blockquote>

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