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<blockquote data-quote="Sidekick" data-source="post: 3229062" data-attributes="member: 13946"><p>well call me silly but I'm always suspicious of the word 'correlation'. That just means they're related. I prefer causal relationships established.</p><p></p><p>Anywho. As everyone's said IQ is in no way indicitive of intelligence. In fact I'm more likely to get a high IQ score solely because I'm a white, middle class male. This "status" confers on me educational advantages such as better schools with more funding and so forth etc etc.</p><p></p><p>Generalising here - people from ethnic minoritiesor lower classes or poverty ridden inner city areas or also for some reason females (I beleive it has something to do with the spacial sections of the IQ tests) do worse that males from semi-priviledged background who are from the ethnic majority. Combine any of those sociodemographic factors and the scales begin to tip against certain segments of the population. </p><p></p><p>The thing that really makes me curious about these tests is that if you ASK people from ethnic minorites (eg African americans) their ethnicity before they do the test, they score worse than they do if you don't ask their ethnicity. </p><p></p><p>There seems (this will not shock you) a prevailing sub-context in western societies that say that black people (or other enthinc minorities) aren't as intelligent as white people. Of course that's complete cr@p, but for some reason this subconsious attribution actually seeps through into things like SAT & IQ tests.</p><p></p><p>I'd encourage anyone interested in the oddities of subconsious though and how it influences us to read "Blink". Its s great book written by that guy who wrote "the tipping point". its got an angle (so does everyone and thing) but it's still an interesting read that's for sure. </p><p></p><p>Made me think about the way I look at other poeple and how views and opinions that I don't beleive or share can still slip into my mind unwanted...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sidekick, post: 3229062, member: 13946"] well call me silly but I'm always suspicious of the word 'correlation'. That just means they're related. I prefer causal relationships established. Anywho. As everyone's said IQ is in no way indicitive of intelligence. In fact I'm more likely to get a high IQ score solely because I'm a white, middle class male. This "status" confers on me educational advantages such as better schools with more funding and so forth etc etc. Generalising here - people from ethnic minoritiesor lower classes or poverty ridden inner city areas or also for some reason females (I beleive it has something to do with the spacial sections of the IQ tests) do worse that males from semi-priviledged background who are from the ethnic majority. Combine any of those sociodemographic factors and the scales begin to tip against certain segments of the population. The thing that really makes me curious about these tests is that if you ASK people from ethnic minorites (eg African americans) their ethnicity before they do the test, they score worse than they do if you don't ask their ethnicity. There seems (this will not shock you) a prevailing sub-context in western societies that say that black people (or other enthinc minorities) aren't as intelligent as white people. Of course that's complete cr@p, but for some reason this subconsious attribution actually seeps through into things like SAT & IQ tests. I'd encourage anyone interested in the oddities of subconsious though and how it influences us to read "Blink". Its s great book written by that guy who wrote "the tipping point". its got an angle (so does everyone and thing) but it's still an interesting read that's for sure. Made me think about the way I look at other poeple and how views and opinions that I don't beleive or share can still slip into my mind unwanted... [/QUOTE]
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