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<blockquote data-quote="Dogbrain" data-source="post: 1563119" data-attributes="member: 14980">&quot;Seelie&quot; and &quot;Unseelie&quot; have nothing to do with anything &quot;Celtic&quot;, as any study of English and &quot;Celtic&quot; languages and culture would very quickly reveal.&nbsp; The terms &quot;seelie&quot; and &quot;unseelie&quot; are purely English, not a bit of Celticousity about them, and they were used in reference to people and events of Old English, medieval English, and even early modern English culture.&nbsp; &quot;Seelie&quot; comes from the same root that begat &quot;silly&quot;.&nbsp; Hence, Seelie/Unseelie is more a Germanic belief, similar to Alfar/Svartalfar. Likewise, the &quot;Midsummer/Midwinter&quot; thing is more Germanic than it is &quot;Celtic&quot;.&nbsp; The pre-Christian Celtic culture (as far as we can determine) recognized four major holidays, not only two.All cold/all hot is more a Germanic thing:Niflheim/Muspellhir, for example.Unfortunately, popular &quot;culture&quot; is of the delusion that any and all things &quot;fae&quot; are and must automatically be &quot;Celtic&quot;.&nbsp; This is the same delusion and ignorance that leads to fandom chicks running around with copies of Scandanavian jewelry that they claim is &quot;Celtic knotwork&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dogbrain, post: 1563119, member: 14980"] "Seelie" and "Unseelie" have nothing to do with anything "Celtic", as any study of English and "Celtic" languages and culture would very quickly reveal. The terms "seelie" and "unseelie" are purely English, not a bit of Celticousity about them, and they were used in reference to people and events of Old English, medieval English, and even early modern English culture. "Seelie" comes from the same root that begat "silly". Hence, Seelie/Unseelie is more a Germanic belief, similar to Alfar/Svartalfar. Likewise, the "Midsummer/Midwinter" thing is more Germanic than it is "Celtic". The pre-Christian Celtic culture (as far as we can determine) recognized four major holidays, not only two. All cold/all hot is more a Germanic thing: Niflheim/Muspellhir, for example. Unfortunately, popular "culture" is of the delusion that any and all things "fae" are and must automatically be "Celtic". This is the same delusion and ignorance that leads to fandom chicks running around with copies of Scandanavian jewelry that they claim is "Celtic knotwork". [/QUOTE]

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