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<blockquote data-quote="Calion" data-source="post: 7165123" data-attributes="member: 73976"><p>Fine, let's look more deeply at that article.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Already, we have a character that has <em>three</em> proficiencies: Carpentry, woodworking <em>and</em> Survival. The standard is <em>only</em> Survival.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Guess what: There's no Sears in Faerûn. And anyway, the standard here is self-sufficiency. No getting of external supplies is allowed; you're not spending <em>any</em> money. What tools did he use to make that cabin? Let's see:</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>So that answers your question: He built that cabin over <em>two summers</em>. That's hardly an option for our survivalist adventurer. That's a permanent homestead, which is a different thing than simply "living off the land" for a few weeks or months between adventures. It answers my question too: He used hand tools, many that he made himself. Impressive! But…I'm not sure bringing in steel parts is part of the deal here. Maybe he could sacrifice his armor, but then he's <em>poorer</em> when he comes out than when he went in. But whatever; like I said, bringing an axe (or two) is reasonable. Still, with several months of work, he made a very cozy homestead. Possibly, he could qualify for Comfortable…or maybe just Modest. It's hard to tell. He certainly didn't make his own clothing; that came from Sears.</p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to dismiss his efforts; he was obviously an amazing person. Someone unusual. Let's stat him: Three proficiencies, with at least 15 in the key stats for those proficiencies. That's not the standard. The standard is <em>one</em> proficiency, with no necessity for an outstanding stat. We're just not talking about the same thing here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Calion, post: 7165123, member: 73976"] Fine, let's look more deeply at that article. Already, we have a character that has [I]three[/I] proficiencies: Carpentry, woodworking [I]and[/I] Survival. The standard is [I]only[/I] Survival. Guess what: There's no Sears in Faerûn. And anyway, the standard here is self-sufficiency. No getting of external supplies is allowed; you're not spending [I]any[/I] money. What tools did he use to make that cabin? Let's see: So that answers your question: He built that cabin over [I]two summers[/I]. That's hardly an option for our survivalist adventurer. That's a permanent homestead, which is a different thing than simply "living off the land" for a few weeks or months between adventures. It answers my question too: He used hand tools, many that he made himself. Impressive! But…I'm not sure bringing in steel parts is part of the deal here. Maybe he could sacrifice his armor, but then he's [I]poorer[/I] when he comes out than when he went in. But whatever; like I said, bringing an axe (or two) is reasonable. Still, with several months of work, he made a very cozy homestead. Possibly, he could qualify for Comfortable…or maybe just Modest. It's hard to tell. He certainly didn't make his own clothing; that came from Sears. I'm not trying to dismiss his efforts; he was obviously an amazing person. Someone unusual. Let's stat him: Three proficiencies, with at least 15 in the key stats for those proficiencies. That's not the standard. The standard is [I]one[/I] proficiency, with no necessity for an outstanding stat. We're just not talking about the same thing here. [/QUOTE]
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