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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7165471" data-attributes="member: 15700">Carpentry and woodworking (the same thing really) aren't skill proficiency.  They're tools in D&D.  But that's missing the point anyway.  Also, when I said do more than skim a Wiki article, I meant actually go look him up outside of the wiki (which is only the cliff notes version of things).  He's actually done filming of himself to show others how he lived.Those "periodic trips" was only once, maybe twice a year.  And they were for things he just didn't feel like making himself (like clothing).  Well, and he was a big fan of cookies.  You also seem to be holding him to a completely different standard by not allowing any tools, yet you said earlier he'd have an explorer's pack and dagger and ax.  Now you're changing your position.  The tools he had were mostly all tools a typical mountain man would have anyway.  He did not have a chain saw or anything, jeez.Well, if you bothered to read my earlier posts even if you couldn't be bothered to actually do worthwhile research on him, you'd know that it only took him a couple weeks to build the actual cabin.  That first year was just letting the lumber sit there and season.You keep accusing me of not understanding the standard, but yet it's you who continues to describe "comfortable" with things that do not exist at that level, even in the PHB itself.  Nowhere under the description of "comfortable" does it say you have warm baths, or maid filling tubs, or bathrooms, or clothing considered rich at the time (silk, well made cotton, etc).  No, what is clear is that you don't understand what life was like in the middle ages for people if that's what you think everyone with a "comfortable" lifestyle would have.  Everything you described is what aristocracy would only experience.  I'm betting you probably didn't even know that anyone not in the high wealthy class used woodsmoke as a deodorant.  Outer clothing was almost never washed, only the linen undergarments.  Speaking of "if furs were so great why didn't they wear them", they did, but only the wealthy.  In that regard, the woodsman was wearing clothing that only the wealthy could afford in the city; it not only is as good as what a "comfortable" citizen would have, it was considered better---so a woodsman would have better attire than a "comfortable" city person would have.</blockquote>

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