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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Calion" data-source="post: 7165548" data-attributes="member: 73976">Some of the materials, yes. The skills, time and tools to make nice clothing, no. It's called specialization and division of labor; one person on his own cannot be as wealthy, with the equivalent amount of work, as that same person in a community. And yet the standard is "can easily maintain his equipment." Which means repairing his armor without trouble if it gets damaged (or was already damaged before he went into the woods). Whether he needs to is irrelevant to the standard for Comfortable. Actually, the rule is "self-sufficiency." That strongly implies that you aren't trading for what you need, but making everything yourself. This rule should be able to apply to someone on the run from the authorities who does not dare contact others, or someone alone in the deep wilderness.  Who had a stable home base, a community that included craftsmen of various natures, and, obviously, blacksmiths and access to significant quantities of metal for fabricating swords and armor. That has nothing to do with the rule in question. Aragorn himself was clearly trained in Survival. Can you show me an occasion in LOTR where he was surviving in the wilderness, alone or with others, at a Comfortable living standard, or anything remotely like it?…you mean people living in a city including master craftsmen, trade with other cultures, and permanent homes? Who is "self-sufficient" in Lothlorien? And in which of those stories did they make nicer-than-average clothing, could easily maintain their equipment, and lived in the equivalent of a professionally-built cottage? As a developed culture with specialization and division of labor living in well-made, stoneworked caverns, with many craftsmen, imported metal goods, and imported wine[\i] for God's sake. Don't confuse a civilization that happens to be in the forest with a single person living off the land. The wood elves had a far higher standard of living than even a well-established hunter-gatherer tribe. I'll bet they even had bread.  Um…poor people buy things too. That in no way means that they associate with skilled tradespeople, as in are invited to dinner in their homes. This is what is happening, over and over in this thread: A lot of stretching to justify the rules, instead of acknowledging that it makes no sense for a skilled craftsman to make 2 sp/day in a city, but someone trained in Survival to live in the woods as well if they spent 2 gp/day in the city.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk</blockquote>

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