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<blockquote data-quote="jasonbostwick" data-source="post: 5318817" data-attributes="member: 34924"><p>Typed up a big long post last night and then deleted it midway through when I realised it was just a big wank about why I stopped playing 4E. I'll make this a lot quicker and less negative.</p><p></p><p>I chose Pathfinder mainly for the adventure support - the Kingmaker AP alone pretty much won me over. I started out on a conversion of the adventures and then realised it would be easier to just run them in their native system, and the more I checked out PF the more I remembered all of the things I loved about 3.5.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I went on to Pathfinder over going back to 3.5 because the revisions basically look like a copy of the houserules I was playing with at the end of the 3.5 era. Condensed skills, extra feats, no 'dead levels.' </p><p>The continuing support is also important to me - like others in the thread have said, the APG and GMG are amazing books. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Having made the transition from 4E like you, though, there were a few things that were a bit of a shock. </p><p>Going back to monsters that weren't fully contained in their stat-block was a bit hard to deal with, but hasn't been that big of a deal at low levels. </p><p>The extensive list of conditions is also harder to keep track of than 4Es, but they come into play a lot less often. I mostly have difficulty remembering what conditions allow the rogue to Sneak Attack, after playing with the much simpler Combat Advantage mechanic for a few years.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jasonbostwick, post: 5318817, member: 34924"] Typed up a big long post last night and then deleted it midway through when I realised it was just a big wank about why I stopped playing 4E. I'll make this a lot quicker and less negative. I chose Pathfinder mainly for the adventure support - the Kingmaker AP alone pretty much won me over. I started out on a conversion of the adventures and then realised it would be easier to just run them in their native system, and the more I checked out PF the more I remembered all of the things I loved about 3.5. I went on to Pathfinder over going back to 3.5 because the revisions basically look like a copy of the houserules I was playing with at the end of the 3.5 era. Condensed skills, extra feats, no 'dead levels.' The continuing support is also important to me - like others in the thread have said, the APG and GMG are amazing books. Having made the transition from 4E like you, though, there were a few things that were a bit of a shock. Going back to monsters that weren't fully contained in their stat-block was a bit hard to deal with, but hasn't been that big of a deal at low levels. The extensive list of conditions is also harder to keep track of than 4Es, but they come into play a lot less often. I mostly have difficulty remembering what conditions allow the rogue to Sneak Attack, after playing with the much simpler Combat Advantage mechanic for a few years. [/QUOTE]
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