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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The_Ditto" data-source="post: 3250491" data-attributes="member: 30566">I don't think that was the one I was thinking of .... there's another one ... I'll look it up later ... Huh? You lost me ... I only brought up the energy-type spell in SC as a counter-point to "Psionic Energy Powers are too good" ... that's all ... has nothing to do with Nova ... never said it did ... never will ..I provided the links for the nova argument ... you're welcome to ignore/disagree with them as you will ... I'm not here to convince you ...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> (and sorry if this comes across wrong, but I have better things to do with my time than to try to convince 1 person ... *shrug* )Facts are quite simple:- Psions can "nova" easily "out of the box" .. as you said .. this is easy to show ...For starters, as you put it, they can "mini-nova" from level 1 ... wizards/sorcerers can as well but it's a bit trickier (ie requiring more selective spell choices)- Psions can burn through their PP really fast .. simply by augmenting ... again, this is a pretty straight forward statement and I would nope doesn't need much additional "proof" ... that being said, just because they can burn through their PP doesn't make them unbalanced in comparison to other spell casters ... in fact ...- wizards can burn through spell slots at a pretty good rate, easily keeping up to psions at about mid-level .. and easily exceeding them at high level ... this is done (easily) by use of careful "cherry-picking" of swift/immediate action spells (of which I've noticed quite a few nice ones in Spell Compendium), as well as Quicken spell when it becomes available ... (or even Twin Spell or Repeat Spell ... )This point requires more "evidence", true ... however, you can refer back to my link on the arcane nova for the step by step on how the wizards can meet - and in fact - out do the psion in this department ...- that all being said, when their respective "novas" are done ... the arcane/divine will easily have more resources left over (resources being spell slots compared to the Psions PP ...)again, those links I provided will back that up with the examples contained within .. you just need to do some reading ... if you're interested, that is ...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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