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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 3250932" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>My quote that you were directly responding to was discussing Novas.</p><p></p><p>If you want to change the topic off of Novas, fine. Just let us know you are doing so.</p><p></p><p>But the ability to pick and choose energy types is a Nova option. For example, hit those demons with Cold because that does damage whereas Electricity doesn't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it does not work this way. If you want to make a point, fine. Make it and back it up with specific data and examples.</p><p></p><p>Providing links to 50 page arguments is silly and invalid in a debate (and especially to the WotC Psionic boards were anyone with a different POV is shot down and attacked).</p><p></p><p>You can quote arguments from those pages, but to illustrate your POV, you have to provide the information directly. You have to do your own homework. Don't expect anyone else to do it for you.</p><p></p><p>Until you provide your own research and data to back up your POV (even if you pull it from those web pages or wherever), your POV is still suspect on this topic.</p><p></p><p>Psions are the Nova experts until illustrated otherwise.</p><p></p><p>You have not yet illustrated Wizards or Clerics as the Nova experts, you have merely made claims that experienced players can make Wizards or Clerics into Nova experts without backing that claim up with anything real.</p><p></p><p>You have not listed one spell or one feat that does this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You have yet to illustrate any of this with <strong>actual</strong> examples. As written here, it is just opinion. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>As for reading, no sorry. I am not reading 50 or more web pages to find out whether your POV is accurate or not.</p><p></p><p>I assume your POV is totally inaccurate on this particular topic (since I have researched it myself many times and found the counterarguments to be totally lacking) until you illustrate otherwise.</p><p></p><p>No doubt about it. Wizards and Clerics have many more options than Psions. But, those options do not equate to becoming Nova Experts.</p><p></p><p>There are some specific levels where Wizards and Clerics can metamagic a lower level spell and still not reach their damage cap and they can do some serious damage (due to autoscaling of damage). But, that still has yet to be illustrated as more damaging than what a Psion can do at the same level.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 3250932, member: 2011"] My quote that you were directly responding to was discussing Novas. If you want to change the topic off of Novas, fine. Just let us know you are doing so. But the ability to pick and choose energy types is a Nova option. For example, hit those demons with Cold because that does damage whereas Electricity doesn't. No, it does not work this way. If you want to make a point, fine. Make it and back it up with specific data and examples. Providing links to 50 page arguments is silly and invalid in a debate (and especially to the WotC Psionic boards were anyone with a different POV is shot down and attacked). You can quote arguments from those pages, but to illustrate your POV, you have to provide the information directly. You have to do your own homework. Don't expect anyone else to do it for you. Until you provide your own research and data to back up your POV (even if you pull it from those web pages or wherever), your POV is still suspect on this topic. Psions are the Nova experts until illustrated otherwise. You have not yet illustrated Wizards or Clerics as the Nova experts, you have merely made claims that experienced players can make Wizards or Clerics into Nova experts without backing that claim up with anything real. You have not listed one spell or one feat that does this. You have yet to illustrate any of this with [b]actual[/b] examples. As written here, it is just opinion. ;) As for reading, no sorry. I am not reading 50 or more web pages to find out whether your POV is accurate or not. I assume your POV is totally inaccurate on this particular topic (since I have researched it myself many times and found the counterarguments to be totally lacking) until you illustrate otherwise. No doubt about it. Wizards and Clerics have many more options than Psions. But, those options do not equate to becoming Nova Experts. There are some specific levels where Wizards and Clerics can metamagic a lower level spell and still not reach their damage cap and they can do some serious damage (due to autoscaling of damage). But, that still has yet to be illustrated as more damaging than what a Psion can do at the same level. [/QUOTE]
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