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<blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 3251952" data-attributes="member: 9053"><p>Actually, we <strong>are</strong> discussing creating nova characters. My point is that you have stated that <strong>psions</strong> are the best nova characters, but what you are really saying is that a <strong>very specific</strong> psion build is, which is quite a different thing. D&D is a game about making choices. The more you optimize your character for one specific activity, the more you lose out on anything else. Most of the time when people argue that a particular class is broken, what they're really saying is that if you do a lot of things in combination, it is.</p><p></p><p>And your barbarian comparison doesn't work. Barbarians need high con and str scores because they're fighters. Psions need a 13 wisdom for what reason other than taking psychic meditation?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, but we aren't discussing a 14th level psion, are we? We're talking about a 10th level one. The argument is staying stationary, thank you very much.</p><p></p><p>And yes, you can, <strong>later on</strong> get rid of that feat. When you're 10th level, however, you've purchased <strong>skill focus concentration</strong> rather than something that would be more useful for your character.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, you still take the damage you just have a buffer of additional temporary hit points...unless you're also playing an <strong>Elan</strong> character. Hmmn, this build is getting more and more specific all the time, isn't it? It seems more and more like we're talking about one build here, rather than the whole psion class. Otherwise, Vigor is a standard action to use.</p><p></p><p>If I could step out of this argument for a moment and address the original poster here, wondering about psionics. Much of the time when you hear about any class/feat/race or spell being broken, what's really going on is that the problem only occurs when you make a very specific character. You really need to investigate what's being said before you ban something.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well it's three feats for the concentration check at this level, and you also have to pick a specific race (or deal with the fact that you'll be spending your turn every 2-3 rounds reactivating Vigor).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SteveC, post: 3251952, member: 9053"] Actually, we [b]are[/b] discussing creating nova characters. My point is that you have stated that [b]psions[/b] are the best nova characters, but what you are really saying is that a [b]very specific[/b] psion build is, which is quite a different thing. D&D is a game about making choices. The more you optimize your character for one specific activity, the more you lose out on anything else. Most of the time when people argue that a particular class is broken, what they're really saying is that if you do a lot of things in combination, it is. And your barbarian comparison doesn't work. Barbarians need high con and str scores because they're fighters. Psions need a 13 wisdom for what reason other than taking psychic meditation? Ah, but we aren't discussing a 14th level psion, are we? We're talking about a 10th level one. The argument is staying stationary, thank you very much. And yes, you can, [b]later on[/b] get rid of that feat. When you're 10th level, however, you've purchased [b]skill focus concentration[/b] rather than something that would be more useful for your character. No, you still take the damage you just have a buffer of additional temporary hit points...unless you're also playing an [b]Elan[/b] character. Hmmn, this build is getting more and more specific all the time, isn't it? It seems more and more like we're talking about one build here, rather than the whole psion class. Otherwise, Vigor is a standard action to use. If I could step out of this argument for a moment and address the original poster here, wondering about psionics. Much of the time when you hear about any class/feat/race or spell being broken, what's really going on is that the problem only occurs when you make a very specific character. You really need to investigate what's being said before you ban something. Well it's three feats for the concentration check at this level, and you also have to pick a specific race (or deal with the fact that you'll be spending your turn every 2-3 rounds reactivating Vigor). [/QUOTE]
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