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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6409778" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>The whole "my wizard would know that" tends to make a lot of aspects of the game a bit less fun for some players. Where is the mystery if a simple die roll lets PCs know NPC abilities? Should NPCs get a simple die roll to know PC abilities? It depends on the group, but I think it is more interesting for some groups if the PCs find out that these types of creature are resistant to fire by observing it. Monster checks were basically problematic in 4E, but handing out the worse AC/saves goes even beyond the 4E rules.</p><p></p><p>I'm not too bothered by knowing some racial aspects of a creature with some form of knowledge check, but it should be more generic info and potentially some well known strengths or obvious weaknesses of the creatures race (medusas turn creatures to stone). But 4E had the entire Goblin Sharpshooter that was different than a Goblin Grunt which is different than a Goblin Sniper. Not too keen on PCs knowing the difference between various abilities of same race NPCs based on a quick glance. Just because one Goblin is quick and has high Dex should not necessarily mean that all Goblins are quick with high Dex.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6409778, member: 2011"] The whole "my wizard would know that" tends to make a lot of aspects of the game a bit less fun for some players. Where is the mystery if a simple die roll lets PCs know NPC abilities? Should NPCs get a simple die roll to know PC abilities? It depends on the group, but I think it is more interesting for some groups if the PCs find out that these types of creature are resistant to fire by observing it. Monster checks were basically problematic in 4E, but handing out the worse AC/saves goes even beyond the 4E rules. I'm not too bothered by knowing some racial aspects of a creature with some form of knowledge check, but it should be more generic info and potentially some well known strengths or obvious weaknesses of the creatures race (medusas turn creatures to stone). But 4E had the entire Goblin Sharpshooter that was different than a Goblin Grunt which is different than a Goblin Sniper. Not too keen on PCs knowing the difference between various abilities of same race NPCs based on a quick glance. Just because one Goblin is quick and has high Dex should not necessarily mean that all Goblins are quick with high Dex. [/QUOTE]
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