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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 5673710" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>If you're speaking about core rules, why not put up a 4e equivalent of the d20 or Pathfinder SRD - that didn't seem to hurt sales any for those other games.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Or WotC could just vet their stuff better and not need to errata so much. Or, like our group, you can ignore most of the errata.</p><p></p><p>The main thrust of your argument seems to be "since it's going to be errated anyhow..." If they really want an evergreen D&D they need to put their money where their mouth is and design one.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Youve got to realize that WotC has plenty of other product lines besides D&D that make more money than D&D. They were a TCG to begin with and if they went belly up I'd wonder about Magic more than D&D. And while I want WotC to succeed too, I've no doubts that Paizo would rise to that occasion in a heartbeat.</p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> And you could photocopy a physical magazine, so...?</p><p></p><p>I *think* your argument boils down to the benefits of a subscription based publication service without a downloadable format. </p><p></p><p>In which case I disagree, and that's why I let my 2-3 year DDi subscription expire last October. I don't buy that business model because what happens when (a) I'm playing without an Internet connection, or (b) their servers crash or they take down DDi when the next edition comes out.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's not how I roll, though I can see how it was a problem for them. That said, I think their solution was inelegant and threw the baby out with the bathwater. </p><p></p><p>Quick story. I signed up for DDi a few months after its elease and used it continuously for 2-3 years. For 2 months I'm not gaming being buried in work, and during that time my laptop dies. During that time DDi goes online. The character builder isn't among the recoverable files, but I learn on ENWorld that google cache has the Character Builder installer so I download that. Guess what? I have the demo version of the Character Builder now. And no legal way to get the old Character Builder back.</p><p></p><p>Tough luck customer. </p><p></p><p>Tough luck WotC. Unsubscribe.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll pay attention to WotC adventures (and products in general) when I hear them start to improve and, you know, have something that resembles a fuller release schedule. Recently, WotC has had a way with unintentional false promises.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 5673710, member: 20323"] If you're speaking about core rules, why not put up a 4e equivalent of the d20 or Pathfinder SRD - that didn't seem to hurt sales any for those other games. Or WotC could just vet their stuff better and not need to errata so much. Or, like our group, you can ignore most of the errata. The main thrust of your argument seems to be "since it's going to be errated anyhow..." If they really want an evergreen D&D they need to put their money where their mouth is and design one. Youve got to realize that WotC has plenty of other product lines besides D&D that make more money than D&D. They were a TCG to begin with and if they went belly up I'd wonder about Magic more than D&D. And while I want WotC to succeed too, I've no doubts that Paizo would rise to that occasion in a heartbeat. :confused: And you could photocopy a physical magazine, so...? I *think* your argument boils down to the benefits of a subscription based publication service without a downloadable format. In which case I disagree, and that's why I let my 2-3 year DDi subscription expire last October. I don't buy that business model because what happens when (a) I'm playing without an Internet connection, or (b) their servers crash or they take down DDi when the next edition comes out. That's not how I roll, though I can see how it was a problem for them. That said, I think their solution was inelegant and threw the baby out with the bathwater. Quick story. I signed up for DDi a few months after its elease and used it continuously for 2-3 years. For 2 months I'm not gaming being buried in work, and during that time my laptop dies. During that time DDi goes online. The character builder isn't among the recoverable files, but I learn on ENWorld that google cache has the Character Builder installer so I download that. Guess what? I have the demo version of the Character Builder now. And no legal way to get the old Character Builder back. Tough luck customer. Tough luck WotC. Unsubscribe. I'll pay attention to WotC adventures (and products in general) when I hear them start to improve and, you know, have something that resembles a fuller release schedule. Recently, WotC has had a way with unintentional false promises. [/QUOTE]
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