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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 3555647" data-attributes="member: 22882"><p>The one who saw his pal, a Tough 3/Bodyguard 1, get devoured by the strange unearthly monstrosity's hundred non-euclidean maws in a single round. The one who went hopelessly insane just *seeing* the strange unearthly monstrosity.</p><p></p><p>With that said, a Fast 3/Gunslinger 1 may not be ill-served trying to kill it before it kills him. Lovecraft's characters were mostly academics, not physical types; both their existential horror at the reality of the universe and their relative inability to fight Mythos creatures as physical threats came largely from the fact they were thinkers more than doers. A Fast 3/Gunslinger 1 might be well served to try to fight a moderately powerful Mythos creature; would a Smart 4? Probably not.</p><p></p><p>When physical characters came to grips with the mythos, they usually did confront it head-on; sometimes they won (sometimes the academics did, too), although never without cost. Robert E. Howard also wrote stories in Lovecraft's shared universe, including his Conan stories; the legendary barbarian sometimes encountered horros of the Outer Dark too grim for him to face and fled, but as often he prevailed by confronting them physically.</p><p></p><p>You pretty much have four types of Mythos creatures: unnerving but ultimately mortal and defeatable enemies (ghouls, deep ones), powerful monsters that must either be run from or fought in numbers (formless spawn, cthonians), great old ones that might be significantly challenged by strategic weapons but are far beyond mortals' ability to fight head-on (Cthulhu, Hastur), and true gods that cannot be defeated no matter what (Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, Shub-Niggurath and probably Nyarlathotep). Against the first two categories, physical force is not necessarily an inappropriate response, although it carries with it a real risk of losing and dying horribly. Against the third, even 20th level d20 Modern PCs have no real chance (the d20 CoC Great Old Ones are all CR 20+ in D&D terms, and the difference between D&D and d20 Modern PCs only grows as you get to higher levels). Against the fourth, no amount of power will suffice; Azathoth's body is literally the very <em>substance of the universe</em>, for example.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 3555647, member: 22882"] The one who saw his pal, a Tough 3/Bodyguard 1, get devoured by the strange unearthly monstrosity's hundred non-euclidean maws in a single round. The one who went hopelessly insane just *seeing* the strange unearthly monstrosity. With that said, a Fast 3/Gunslinger 1 may not be ill-served trying to kill it before it kills him. Lovecraft's characters were mostly academics, not physical types; both their existential horror at the reality of the universe and their relative inability to fight Mythos creatures as physical threats came largely from the fact they were thinkers more than doers. A Fast 3/Gunslinger 1 might be well served to try to fight a moderately powerful Mythos creature; would a Smart 4? Probably not. When physical characters came to grips with the mythos, they usually did confront it head-on; sometimes they won (sometimes the academics did, too), although never without cost. Robert E. Howard also wrote stories in Lovecraft's shared universe, including his Conan stories; the legendary barbarian sometimes encountered horros of the Outer Dark too grim for him to face and fled, but as often he prevailed by confronting them physically. You pretty much have four types of Mythos creatures: unnerving but ultimately mortal and defeatable enemies (ghouls, deep ones), powerful monsters that must either be run from or fought in numbers (formless spawn, cthonians), great old ones that might be significantly challenged by strategic weapons but are far beyond mortals' ability to fight head-on (Cthulhu, Hastur), and true gods that cannot be defeated no matter what (Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, Shub-Niggurath and probably Nyarlathotep). Against the first two categories, physical force is not necessarily an inappropriate response, although it carries with it a real risk of losing and dying horribly. Against the third, even 20th level d20 Modern PCs have no real chance (the d20 CoC Great Old Ones are all CR 20+ in D&D terms, and the difference between D&D and d20 Modern PCs only grows as you get to higher levels). Against the fourth, no amount of power will suffice; Azathoth's body is literally the very [I]substance of the universe[/I], for example. [/QUOTE]
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