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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 3451962" data-attributes="member: 20741">I use an opposed roll based on diplomacy for both buying and selling.Each "1" on a D20 is equal to a 5%  price shift, with a sale beginning at a base 90% of value and a purchase at 100%. I set the maximum at a 40% swing so that the party is not getting horribly screwed every time.The PC in the party with the best diplomacy does the haggling.Example: Lorak has a diplomacy of 12 and is up against Bellathoran the Wizard shopkeeper with a diplomacy of 18 when trying to sell magical kit with a base value of 1,000 gp.Lorak rolls a 9 on a D20. Adding his diplomacy he has a "21".Bellathoran rolls as 13 which, together with diplomacy, is a 31. The difference is "10" in favor of the merchant, a difference of 5%x10 = 50%. That exceeds the maximum permissible 40% swing, so the PCs will be selling at only 50%.Had Lorak rolled a 16 and Bellathoran a 4, the resut would have been:Lorak 16 + 12 = 28Bellathoran 4 +18 = 22A difference of 6 in favor of the PC. This difference, when multiplied by 5% = 30% price shift in favor of the PC. Added to a base of 90% (it's a sale, not a purchase of magic gear) means that the PC sells the gear for more than its value at 120%.  That's 1,200 gp for the item.Bards have their uses after all...</blockquote>