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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Belen" data-source="post: 2781795" data-attributes="member: 1405">I used to hold the same ideals as Dremmen.  I thought that it was a more mature form of the game to immerse yourself into the character and setting.  Alas, I was never able to fully achieve this state.  I think that a narrative style is a very worthy form of playing the game.  However, as my gaming philosophy matured over time, and the amount of time I had to appreciate the game lessoned, I came to value other qualities in the game.A narrative style is just an awesome amount of work on both the players and DM.  It requires a good amount of time and dedication to the game.  Some, like me, would love to have the time to develop the game to this level.  In fact, every time Shark posts about his game, I feel like a crap DM.  However, I think most people try to find a happy medium in gaming.  They like their roleplay, but keep it separate from the combat crunch, if this makes sense.I do agree that 3.5 makes the combat crunch more central though and it makes it more difficult to narrate for all parties.  It may make it near impossible because you almost have to sacrifice narration in order to keep up with all the various tactics and bonus' that fly about the game during combat.  It has even make RP crunchy in that it calls for rolls that tend to break the flow of the game.  The only way for a narrator to work well in this area is to ignore the rolls and add a bit of fiat, or roll for the players, which adds yet more work to the DM.Let me know if I make any sense guys?For the record, here is what I value in a "mature" gamer these days:1.) Shows up on time and ready to play.2.) Interacts with the rest of the players and the setting.3.) Has in-game goals and desires.4.) Treats players and DM with respect.5.) Gives honest opinion about the direction of the game.</blockquote>

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