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<blockquote data-quote="Hardhead" data-source="post: 1279650" data-attributes="member: 2844">You know what gets on my nerves?&nbsp; The feats out there that raise the AC of two weapon fighters, when there's not a SINGLE feat for specifically for sword and board types.&nbsp; The only one, really, is Shield Expertise from S&amp;F, which is just a way of letting them use TWF with a shield.Let's compare the ACs of two builds trying to be defensive:The sword-and-board fighter&nbsp; takes the only feats really available to him for raising AC:&nbsp; Expertise and Dodge. The two weapon fighter takes Dodge, Twin Sword Style from Forgotten Realms and Improved Buckler Defense from Complete Warrior.ACs:&nbsp; The Sword and Board fighter has a +3 AC bonus from his feats and his shield.&nbsp; He can spend to-hit bonuses to improve it.The Two weapon fighter has... a +4 AC bonus from his feats and his shield.Plus, the two weapon fighter gets an extra attack with his off hand (that attack has a -1 from the buckler, but it's better than the nothing that Mr. Sword and Board gets) .Sure, the two weapon fighter spent an extra feat, but that's only because Mr. Sword and Board doesn't have any other defensive feats to buy.&nbsp; Even with an even number of feats, 2WFer has the same AC and more attacks.Shouldn't the Sword-and-Board guy have a better AC, considering he's giving up the use of two weapons or a two-handed weapon?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hardhead, post: 1279650, member: 2844"] You know what gets on my nerves? The feats out there that raise the AC of two weapon fighters, when there's not a SINGLE feat for specifically for sword and board types. The only one, really, is Shield Expertise from S&F, which is just a way of letting them use TWF with a shield. Let's compare the ACs of two builds trying to be defensive: The sword-and-board fighter takes the only feats really available to him for raising AC: Expertise and Dodge. The two weapon fighter takes Dodge, Twin Sword Style from Forgotten Realms and Improved Buckler Defense from Complete Warrior. ACs: The Sword and Board fighter has a +3 AC bonus from his feats and his shield. He can spend to-hit bonuses to improve it. The Two weapon fighter has... a +4 AC bonus from his feats and his shield. Plus, the two weapon fighter gets an extra attack with his off hand (that attack has a -1 from the buckler, but it's better than the nothing that Mr. Sword and Board gets) . Sure, the two weapon fighter spent an extra feat, but that's only because Mr. Sword and Board doesn't have any other defensive feats to buy. Even with an even number of feats, 2WFer has the same AC and more attacks. Shouldn't the Sword-and-Board guy have a better AC, considering he's giving up the use of two weapons or a two-handed weapon? [/QUOTE]

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