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<blockquote data-quote="thzero" data-source="post: 5812072" data-attributes="member: 86754">Nah I understood thats what you were saying.&nbsp; However, I have always thought the designers made a mistake with making the Charisma Stat being the &quot;inner strength&quot; of the character, which it always had seemed to be due to its use in turning undead, bard and sorcerer magic, etc.&nbsp; This flies in the face of the definition they provide for Charisma and the standard English definition.&nbsp; It was like they were trying to find a reason for Charisma not to be a dump stat on just about every class.I can see WIS being the stat for turning undead on both Clerics and Paladins.&nbsp; The Paladin has other uses for Charisma (not to mention, he needs a lot more skill points so he can get decent diplomacy, etc. skills).&nbsp; I'd use WIS for the Sorcerer's spell stat.&nbsp; CHA maybe for Bard, questionable though depending on how much of the Bard's magic is &quot;performance based&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="thzero, post: 5812072, member: 86754"] Nah I understood thats what you were saying. However, I have always thought the designers made a mistake with making the Charisma Stat being the "inner strength" of the character, which it always had seemed to be due to its use in turning undead, bard and sorcerer magic, etc. This flies in the face of the definition they provide for Charisma and the standard English definition. It was like they were trying to find a reason for Charisma not to be a dump stat on just about every class. I can see WIS being the stat for turning undead on both Clerics and Paladins. The Paladin has other uses for Charisma (not to mention, he needs a lot more skill points so he can get decent diplomacy, etc. skills). I'd use WIS for the Sorcerer's spell stat. CHA maybe for Bard, questionable though depending on how much of the Bard's magic is "performance based". [/QUOTE]

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