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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5142639" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Dang it, looks like I missed the party!</p><p></p><p>The Armadillephant looks fine.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I wouldn't have given it Int 4, since the original had the same Intelligence as an AD&D elephant I'd have just made it Int 2 like the SRD elephant.</p><p></p><p>The same proviso applies to the Moat Cat. Both leopards and cheetahs have Int 2-4 in 2E, same as the Moat Cat.</p><p></p><p>Thus I think making it Int 2 like the 3E big cats makes more sense. Besides, newts aren't noted for being smarter than cats, so it wouldn't feel right to me to make a crossbreed of the two smarter than both.</p><p></p><p>Looking at its AD&D stats they're very similar to those of a Leopard (AC, Move, claw/claw/bite/rake) or a Cheetah (HD, sprint).</p><p></p><p>So, I'd take a Leopard and modify its stats a bit - add Aquatic, Amphibious and Water Dependent as previously mentioned, together with a Swim speed and a cut-down version of a Cheetah's Sprint SQ.</p><p></p><p>Monitor Lizards, Snakes and Crocodiles all have Cha 2, so how about averaging that with the Cheetah/Leopard's Cha 6 to give it a Charisma of 4?</p><p></p><p>I suppose we could tweak the physical stats a bit if we wanted to. Maybe cut down the Dex by a couple of points (since Giant Frogs and the previously mentioned SRD creatures all have lower Dexterity than the big cats). If we do we should up the natural armour a point to compensate on the presumption its skin may be smooth but is thick and tough, like a killer frog.</p><p></p><p>So I'm suggesting:</p><p></p><p>Stats as Leopard, plus:</p><p></p><p>Magical Beast (Aquatic)</p><p><strong>Speed:</strong> 40 ft. (8 squares), climb 20 ft., swim 30 ft.</p><p><strong>AC:</strong> 15 (+3 Dex, +2 natural), touch 13, flat-footed 12</p><p><strong>Abilities:</strong> Str 16, Dex 17, Con 15, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 4</p><p><strong>Special Qualities:</strong> Amphibious, low-light vision, scent, sprint, water dependent</p><p><strong>Feats:</strong> Alertness, Multiattack</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5142639, member: 57383"] Dang it, looks like I missed the party! The Armadillephant looks fine. Personally, I wouldn't have given it Int 4, since the original had the same Intelligence as an AD&D elephant I'd have just made it Int 2 like the SRD elephant. The same proviso applies to the Moat Cat. Both leopards and cheetahs have Int 2-4 in 2E, same as the Moat Cat. Thus I think making it Int 2 like the 3E big cats makes more sense. Besides, newts aren't noted for being smarter than cats, so it wouldn't feel right to me to make a crossbreed of the two smarter than both. Looking at its AD&D stats they're very similar to those of a Leopard (AC, Move, claw/claw/bite/rake) or a Cheetah (HD, sprint). So, I'd take a Leopard and modify its stats a bit - add Aquatic, Amphibious and Water Dependent as previously mentioned, together with a Swim speed and a cut-down version of a Cheetah's Sprint SQ. Monitor Lizards, Snakes and Crocodiles all have Cha 2, so how about averaging that with the Cheetah/Leopard's Cha 6 to give it a Charisma of 4? I suppose we could tweak the physical stats a bit if we wanted to. Maybe cut down the Dex by a couple of points (since Giant Frogs and the previously mentioned SRD creatures all have lower Dexterity than the big cats). If we do we should up the natural armour a point to compensate on the presumption its skin may be smooth but is thick and tough, like a killer frog. So I'm suggesting: Stats as Leopard, plus: Magical Beast (Aquatic) [B]Speed:[/B] 40 ft. (8 squares), climb 20 ft., swim 30 ft. [B]AC:[/B] 15 (+3 Dex, +2 natural), touch 13, flat-footed 12 [B]Abilities:[/B] Str 16, Dex 17, Con 15, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 4 [B]Special Qualities:[/B] Amphibious, low-light vision, scent, sprint, water dependent [B]Feats:[/B] Alertness, Multiattack [/QUOTE]
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