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<blockquote data-quote="Phlebas" data-source="post: 3782890" data-attributes="member: 23810"><p>for what its worth i'd go with bluff vs sense motive, but with some circumstantial modifiers</p><p></p><p>prisoner takes 10 on bluff (not pressurised as charmed and can take time)</p><p></p><p>+5 to bluff for being written </p><p>(IMO, if you can't see non-verbal clues, it should be higher than +2)</p><p></p><p>+2 to sense motive for circumstances (low level survived, high didn't)</p><p></p><p>+2 to sense motive if BBEG knew prisoner / situation well </p><p>OR</p><p>-2 to sense motive if BBEG didn't know prisoner except by name or wasn't aware of situation</p><p></p><p>I'd use forgery if someone else was writing it, not if its actually written by the right person</p><p></p><p>if the BBEG rolled very high (maybe DC +10) then he might work out that the prisoner was being manipulated / charmed. other than that he'd just be suspicious that someone was lying to him (ie whats been reported does not sound accurate and should be checked, sometime)</p><p></p><p>Sounds a very clever idea by the PC's so i'd give them a chance of it working - and one roll off stage by BBEG to decide what he does next seems the easiest way of progressing the story</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Phlebas, post: 3782890, member: 23810"] for what its worth i'd go with bluff vs sense motive, but with some circumstantial modifiers prisoner takes 10 on bluff (not pressurised as charmed and can take time) +5 to bluff for being written (IMO, if you can't see non-verbal clues, it should be higher than +2) +2 to sense motive for circumstances (low level survived, high didn't) +2 to sense motive if BBEG knew prisoner / situation well OR -2 to sense motive if BBEG didn't know prisoner except by name or wasn't aware of situation I'd use forgery if someone else was writing it, not if its actually written by the right person if the BBEG rolled very high (maybe DC +10) then he might work out that the prisoner was being manipulated / charmed. other than that he'd just be suspicious that someone was lying to him (ie whats been reported does not sound accurate and should be checked, sometime) Sounds a very clever idea by the PC's so i'd give them a chance of it working - and one roll off stage by BBEG to decide what he does next seems the easiest way of progressing the story [/QUOTE]
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