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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dozen" data-source="post: 5987004" data-attributes="member: 6698275">You're misunderstanding.  He means that person B Knows  where John is, and intentionally avoids the question by saying something  that implies he doesn't. This is called a mislead, and does count as a  kind of deception -one of the few kinds Lawful folk may consider  approvable. And since it's not a lie per se, as there is no falsehood  stated, Detect Lies really doesn't work against it, but Hunch might.As a more understandable example, let's look at Rich Burlew's Order of the Stick.The party was trying to ascape from a prison, save for the  Lawful Good dwarf cleric named Durkon who decided to wait for their trial.  The rest of the party rushed out, but the party's rogue heared their  captor coming, and pushed everyone back to their cells. She failed to  lock the doors in time tough, and the paladin noticed. The paladin's friends  with the dwarf, so she asked him what happened. The conversation went as  it follows, important parts only:Miko:...'Durkon, I know you would not lie to me. Were they trying to flee?'Durkon:'Ha, umm, well, see... I can swear the five of us never left our cells.'(that is, he never left his cell.)Miko:'Then what of the cell doors? How did they become unlocked?'...Durkon:''Twas a mechanical defect.'The paladin(having the Wisdom score of your average mental institute patient, apparrently) believes him.Later:Roy:'Mechanical defect?'Durkon:'Dunno, I count 'able to be picked by a rogue' as a pretty major defect, aye?'While there was no actual lying involved, you can pretty much tell the dwarf was talking out of his ass. The second statement may require a bluff check, as it wouldn't be considered true without the twisted meaning behind it, but it's up to the DM to decide where he draws the line.</blockquote>

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