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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5987263" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>Sense Motive will never tell you that someone lied. Not specifically.</p><p></p><p>The Paladin asks the Bartender, "Are you the Assassin?"</p><p></p><p>The Bartender, who doesn't like where this conversation is going at all, asks, "What are you talking about?"</p><p></p><p>The Paladin senses that the man is uneasy and concealing something, says, "You're under arrest". And perhaps arrests the wrong man.</p><p></p><p>If the Bartender had made the positive statement, "I don't know what you're talking about", he'd still trip a Sense Motive if he did know that there was an Assassin in the area, or even if he simply knew that the authorities were looking for one, even if he himself wasn't the Assassin.</p><p></p><p>Stop thinking of it as <em>Detect Lie</em>. It isn't, not only because you can't fool it with evasive answers or half truths, but also because you can trigger it for reasons completely unrelated to the direct question.</p><p></p><p>All it tells you is that person has an ulterior motive, one they're trying to hide. That can be a lot, but it's not a precision tool and shouldn't be treated like one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5987263, member: 6669384"] Sense Motive will never tell you that someone lied. Not specifically. The Paladin asks the Bartender, "Are you the Assassin?" The Bartender, who doesn't like where this conversation is going at all, asks, "What are you talking about?" The Paladin senses that the man is uneasy and concealing something, says, "You're under arrest". And perhaps arrests the wrong man. If the Bartender had made the positive statement, "I don't know what you're talking about", he'd still trip a Sense Motive if he did know that there was an Assassin in the area, or even if he simply knew that the authorities were looking for one, even if he himself wasn't the Assassin. Stop thinking of it as [I]Detect Lie[/I]. It isn't, not only because you can't fool it with evasive answers or half truths, but also because you can trigger it for reasons completely unrelated to the direct question. All it tells you is that person has an ulterior motive, one they're trying to hide. That can be a lot, but it's not a precision tool and shouldn't be treated like one. [/QUOTE]
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