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<blockquote data-quote="Dozen" data-source="post: 5987470" data-attributes="member: 6698275">Okay, first, I have to say that would be hilarious <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Flipped my day 180 degrees. Second, it doesn't say you'd have to stay and stare at them.&nbsp; Common sense dictates that action would involve you thinking about what he said and done. If multiple checks are involved, I'd be doing that for a long time, but I don't have to keep looking at him to read the expressions he's not showing anymore.Said definition of mislead was 'to cause (someone) to have a wrong idea or impression.' I approve of that. Your claim the phrase &quot;I haven't seen him today&quot; is not misdirection or misleading in this context. That's also true. You also aren't fooled by it, neither are we, and that's fine. It does not involve a Bluff check, either, but I can roll Hunch against it if I was stupid enough not to notice he's derailing the subject right on.Simply put, I haven't done that. We provided definitions just as you did. If we misenterpreted any of it, you should explain it to us, not telling us repeatedly how wrong we are or presenting your point through means we, as these five pages worth of talking past each other should prove, obviously don't understand.&nbsp; You said you studied the subject, and given the zeal you're protecting your side with tells me you really did. And I'd be ashamed of myself if I angered you this way for no good reason. Forget every insult and assumption for now. Let's say you are our teacher. Let's also say we're those hypothetical kind of students who don't fight their teacher for the sake of it. Teach us, so we pass our tests. Give us a class-worthy explanation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dozen, post: 5987470, member: 6698275"] Okay, first, I have to say that would be hilarious :D Flipped my day 180 degrees. Second, it doesn't say you'd have to stay and stare at them. Common sense dictates that action would involve you thinking about what he said and done. If multiple checks are involved, I'd be doing that for a long time, but I don't have to keep looking at him to read the expressions he's not showing anymore. Said definition of mislead was 'to cause (someone) to have a wrong idea or impression.' I approve of that. Your claim the phrase "I haven't seen him today" is not misdirection or misleading in this context. That's also true. You also aren't fooled by it, neither are we, and that's fine. It does not involve a Bluff check, either, but I can roll Hunch against it if I was stupid enough not to notice he's derailing the subject right on. Simply put, I haven't done that. We provided definitions just as you did. If we misenterpreted any of it, you should explain it to us, not telling us repeatedly how wrong we are or presenting your point through means we, as these five pages worth of talking past each other should prove, obviously don't understand. You said you studied the subject, and given the zeal you're protecting your side with tells me you really did. And I'd be ashamed of myself if I angered you this way for no good reason. Forget every insult and assumption for now. Let's say you are our teacher. Let's also say we're those hypothetical kind of students who don't fight their teacher for the sake of it. Teach us, so we pass our tests. Give us a class-worthy explanation. [/QUOTE]

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