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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 2140357" data-attributes="member: 99">Place me in the camp that says 3E does not seem in any way responsible for any loss of the "sense of wonder" some talk about.I played AD&D for many years and I recall those days fondly.  But that's pretty much just nostalgia for the bygone days when I had little to do but hang out with my pals and game for 12-14 hours at a time on weekends and in the summer.  Not to mention the wonderment that came with slowly coming to grasp that a lifetime of wonderful stories and games awaited me at the gaming table thanks to these books.As for the whole "once you know the monster stats from the MM the wonder is gone" thing, I'm not getting that either.  Even leaving aside the notion of changing monster descriptions so that the players don't know what they're up against, 3E has an entirely integrated method of adding templates and class levels to critters to make them "more than they appear".In AD&D you saw a Goblin or an Orc and you viewed this as a threat or not based on what level you were.  In 3E you look at a Goblin or Orc then you might be wondering whether he's a Rogue or a Psion or a Wizard or Fighter or Paladin 3/Blackguard 7 or whatever.  That might be a regular Ogre Mage or a Half-Fiend Ogre or a Gnomish Illusionist with 13 ranks in Bluff.Some might say that "a creative GM could have put those things in earlier editions of the game too".  I won't disagree.  But I've only got so much time and so much creativity to devote to the game.  Knowing that I can simply slap on some class levels or a template to a critter to get the desired effect gives me a way to quickly add interesting facets to a creature without me having to make up the rules myself.  That lets me devote more time and creativity to the story itself and that's what I'd rather be doing.To me a better set of rules is a better set of tools is a means to a better game.  Whether it is filled with wonderment or not is primarily up to me as the GM, not the system.</blockquote>

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