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<blockquote data-quote="rounser" data-source="post: 4549506" data-attributes="member: 1106">I accept that it's here, but don't see how it's inevitable that it should take the form it has, nor that it should be immune to criticism.&nbsp; I also don't consider my objections to it just a result of a &quot;fear of change&quot;.&nbsp; I wanted a lot of change.&nbsp; Reveille, you should just accept that 4E is just one bunch of guy's take on &quot;improving D&amp;D&quot;, and temporary.&nbsp; Nothing more nor less.&nbsp; It's &quot;WOTC's Fantasy Heartbreaker&quot;, only it won't fail like all the others simply because it has the D&amp;D name on the cover.There is nothing more zen about accepting it than there is in pointing out it's flaws.&nbsp; That's what people did with 3E, and in your own admission that laid out the path for 4E.I'm also not particularly sentimental.&nbsp; Right now, NO edition of D&amp;D does it for me.&nbsp; 4E was supposed to fill that void, but just brings greater problems of it's own.&nbsp; Those who don't agree with your opinion aren't necessarily nostalgic or sentimental, and to make that assumption is somewhat patronising.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rounser, post: 4549506, member: 1106"] I accept that it's here, but don't see how it's inevitable that it should take the form it has, nor that it should be immune to criticism. I also don't consider my objections to it just a result of a "fear of change". I [i]wanted[/i] a lot of change. Reveille, you should just accept that 4E is just one bunch of guy's take on "improving D&D", and temporary. Nothing more nor less. It's "WOTC's Fantasy Heartbreaker", only it won't fail like all the others simply because it has the D&D name on the cover. There is nothing more zen about accepting it than there is in pointing out it's flaws. That's what people did with 3E, and in your own admission that laid out the path for 4E. I'm also not particularly sentimental. Right now, NO edition of D&D does it for me. 4E was supposed to fill that void, but just brings greater problems of it's own. Those who don't agree with your opinion aren't necessarily nostalgic or sentimental, and to make that assumption is somewhat patronising. [/QUOTE]

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