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<blockquote data-quote="abeattie" data-source="post: 4157402" data-attributes="member: 61684">I think that it's both the &quot;brand pull&quot; and the sad fact that in a limited market the big fish wins. We will switch to 4e because our friends play 4e, because when we look for new groups, those groups will play 4e, because every time it comes time to start a new campaign someone will say &quot;4e?&quot;Sure -- there are some groups that will stay with 3.5. Heck, I still run into people at gen-con playing in organized play that haven't moved up from 3rd ed. Money is a problem, and attitude is a big problem -- but 4e has a huge built in advantage. The only way I see 4e stumbling, is if it truly sucks. If it is no fun to play, the OGL will kill 4e (because new supplements and revisions will be provided by 3rd parties enough to keep a core market happy if WotC has really screwed up). Personally, I don't see it. I've played demos, even my &quot;I hate 4e&quot; player ended the game going -- well, basically all that changed is what happens in combat.It's such a minimal area of the game -- it is easily brushed over. (and it did run faster on encounter 2 on).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="abeattie, post: 4157402, member: 61684"] I think that it's both the "brand pull" and the sad fact that in a limited market the big fish wins. We will switch to 4e because our friends play 4e, because when we look for new groups, those groups will play 4e, because every time it comes time to start a new campaign someone will say "4e?" Sure -- there are some groups that will stay with 3.5. Heck, I still run into people at gen-con playing in organized play that haven't moved up from 3rd ed. Money is a problem, and attitude is a big problem -- but 4e has a huge built in advantage. The only way I see 4e stumbling, is if it truly sucks. If it is no fun to play, the OGL will kill 4e (because new supplements and revisions will be provided by 3rd parties enough to keep a core market happy if WotC has really screwed up). Personally, I don't see it. I've played demos, even my "I hate 4e" player ended the game going -- well, basically all that changed is what happens in combat. It's such a minimal area of the game -- it is easily brushed over. (and it did run faster on encounter 2 on). [/QUOTE]

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