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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4160160" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>"So, we overhauled the game system. Oh, and we made the grapple rules faster to adjudicate and easier to use. "</p><p>"What? I am supposed to throw all of 3.x away just for better grapple rules. Rules I never had a problem with in my personal game? I will so stop buying anything from WotC ever again! And certainly not read what else they might have done!"</p><p></p><p>That's the big question. I looked at what Wizard showed me so far, and I say yes, it might actually be that much of an improvement and totally be worth spending money on it*. </p><p>Others may look at it "Oh, come on, this stuff wasn't that bad, I handled it in my own way. I Don't need it. I just need more campaign or adventure material to use all the stuff I already own!".That's a valid viewpoint, too. </p><p></p><p>*) By the way: How much does it really matter whether I spend 300 $ on 3E or on 4E? Because I will certainly not stop buying game products as long as I play! It's not a "reinvestment" from my point of view. It's money I'll devote to my hobby anyway. The only thing that matters to me is if I get something of use for the money. A new game system that I actually might get to play seems like a better investment then yet another rules supplement or campaign setting I might never be able to use, or an adventure that I would prefer to reserve for one of the other DMs in my group that can't or won't build his own adventures.</p><p>Buying a new game system that I can dig into and learn is not a "diminishing return" for me. It's awesome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4160160, member: 710"] "So, we overhauled the game system. Oh, and we made the grapple rules faster to adjudicate and easier to use. " "What? I am supposed to throw all of 3.x away just for better grapple rules. Rules I never had a problem with in my personal game? I will so stop buying anything from WotC ever again! And certainly not read what else they might have done!" That's the big question. I looked at what Wizard showed me so far, and I say yes, it might actually be that much of an improvement and totally be worth spending money on it*. Others may look at it "Oh, come on, this stuff wasn't that bad, I handled it in my own way. I Don't need it. I just need more campaign or adventure material to use all the stuff I already own!".That's a valid viewpoint, too. *) By the way: How much does it really matter whether I spend 300 $ on 3E or on 4E? Because I will certainly not stop buying game products as long as I play! It's not a "reinvestment" from my point of view. It's money I'll devote to my hobby anyway. The only thing that matters to me is if I get something of use for the money. A new game system that I actually might get to play seems like a better investment then yet another rules supplement or campaign setting I might never be able to use, or an adventure that I would prefer to reserve for one of the other DMs in my group that can't or won't build his own adventures. Buying a new game system that I can dig into and learn is not a "diminishing return" for me. It's awesome. [/QUOTE]
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