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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Seravin" data-source="post: 1750219" data-attributes="member: 6783">To be fair, the character concept started out as that of a skill monger - 13 skill points per level is a lot of skill points!  This was also under 3.0 rules at the time so she had twice (nearly three times) as many skill points as the group's bard at the time.The player then picked up a goal of learning all the languages (with 13 points, who cares if it was cross class?).  Diplomacy, bluff, gather-info, and sense motive became important because no one else was really doing it, and with an 8 strength combat was never going to be her strength.In reality, Kestral was played more as an Super-Expert then a Bard; she doesn't have the knowledge skills to 'know' things instead she has to 'check around and find out'.It wasn't in too many levels that Kestral was pretty given much the same respect for her skills as the other players got for their specialties.  In a city adventure, Kestral is dangerous - and she doesn't have to sing a single song for her supper.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>