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Message: <blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 3458818" data-attributes="member: 6777">I don't agree.First off, you should be aware that, according to the rulebook, the players aren't supposed to actually acknowledge that Plot Points exist. The book literally says that you should not say "I spend three Plot Points." You say, "I shoot the guy in the face," then had the GM some tokens and wink. A nod to immersion, I guess. On top of this, the rules also specifically say that the GM can ignore Plot Points. It gives an example of Kaylee spending points (nod, wink) to use an Asset she paid for during chargen. The GM, seeing that this will derail his plot, hands the tokens back to her player and tells her she can't do it.This whole issue of trust you're bringing up is beside the point, I think. Trust or no, there is nothing in the system that requires the GM to do anything with your Complications. I mean, we've done exactly what you're saying above. More than one player has said, e.g., "Well due to my [Complication X], I do this..." And nothing happens. It's a mother-may-I.The game blows when the Plot Points are not flowing. Unfortunately, there's nothing in the system that forces them to flow.As a player, I don't think that I should have to be asking the GM, "Hey, could you use the system please?" The system should just make it happen. That way, the whole game doesn't sink or swim based on whether the GM is awesome. The awesome can be spread around the table.We do. I'm saying it'd be cool if there was some system reinforcement instead of having to resort to a bargaining process... a process that the book advises shouldn't even be allowed, effectively.I'm not really sure what you're talking about here. I'm just trying to give an example of how to make things less passive and more active for both sides. If you want a mainstream, non-indie example, look at Mutants & Masterminds. Complications exist in that game to both create adversity and give PCs Hero Points. They're not a mother-may-I where the player raises their hand and hopes the GM calls on them. They're flags that tell the GM how players want to earn their Hero Points; "If you invoke this, you give me X points."</blockquote>

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