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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 3484065" data-attributes="member: 22882">I keep playing (or rather, came BACK to playing D&amp;D specifically, then left again for other d20 and non-d20 games) because the trends you're describing, with the exception of the rudeness, are positive to me.In my opinion, Final Fantasy and 300 are descendents of Conan and John Carter, whereas D&amp;D is a descendent of Lord of the Rings.&nbsp; I'm kind of meh on the latter (both antecedent and modern) and love the former (both antecedent and modern), so every step D&amp;D takes toward the former means I'm far more likely to enjoy it.&nbsp; And frankly, I'd say FF and 300 have more in common with the Illiad than pre-3e D&amp;D did, too.&nbsp; Anyway, D&amp;D is more enjoyable for me now than it was when I realized it didn't suit my preferences years ago, but it still doesn't go nearly far enough to be my game of choice.As to the rudeness of gamers... you're talking about in person, not online?&nbsp; In person, I find gamers about as rude as they ever were: more openly so than the general population because other gamers are more likely to tolerate antisocial behavior than 'norms,' but not by a lot.&nbsp; Online, of course, every subgroup seems to boil over with impotent rage and scarce-constrained venom.If D&amp;D doesn't do it for you because of the direction it's going, I'd suggest doing what I generally do because of the direction it ISN'T: play other RPGs.&nbsp; Some good choices for your stated preferences would be, I think, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Artesia, Fantasy HERO, RuneQuest (I reccomend the Mongoose version) or Burning Wheel.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 3484065, member: 22882"] I keep playing (or rather, came BACK to playing D&D specifically, then left again for other d20 and non-d20 games) because the trends you're describing, with the exception of the rudeness, are positive to me. In my opinion, Final Fantasy and 300 are descendents of Conan and John Carter, whereas D&D is a descendent of Lord of the Rings. I'm kind of meh on the latter (both antecedent and modern) and love the former (both antecedent and modern), so every step D&D takes toward the former means I'm far more likely to enjoy it. And frankly, I'd say FF and 300 have more in common with the Illiad than pre-3e D&D did, too. Anyway, D&D is more enjoyable for me now than it was when I realized it didn't suit my preferences years ago, but it still doesn't go nearly far enough to be my game of choice. As to the rudeness of gamers... you're talking about in person, not online? In person, I find gamers about as rude as they ever were: more openly so than the general population because other gamers are more likely to tolerate antisocial behavior than 'norms,' but not by a lot. Online, of course, every subgroup seems to boil over with impotent rage and scarce-constrained venom. If D&D doesn't do it for you because of the direction it's going, I'd suggest doing what I generally do because of the direction it ISN'T: play other RPGs. Some good choices for your stated preferences would be, I think, Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, Artesia, Fantasy HERO, RuneQuest (I reccomend the Mongoose version) or Burning Wheel. [/QUOTE]

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