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<blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 3485164" data-attributes="member: 13892">Yep. Unless you're loaded with free time, D&amp;D 3x can be more than a bit overwhelming. There are, simply, more optional rules than most working or married adults have time to proccess in their entirety. I've found that limiting my games to the core rules plus a book or two of setting-specific rules (e.g., Legends of the Samurai, Northern Crown Adventures, etc) goes a long way toward alleviating frustration and, thus, helps me to avoid otherwise likely burnout. That takes care of rule overload for me. As for gamer themselves, I find that most gamers, offline, don't have the conviction to tell&nbsp; me where to cram it. Saying something like that online from behind a veil of anonymity is one thing. Saying something like that to somebody's face is a bit different. The internet imbues some otherwise decent people with the same kind of false bravado that liquor imbues alcoholics with. This being the case, I've found that my offline interaction with gamers is much more pleasant than my online interaction. If you're sick of divisive gamers, my suggestion is to avoid forums for a while and, instead, start hanging out at the FLGS more often. For me, this takes care of my &quot;Gamers are so full of stupid hate!&quot; issues, for the most part (there are exceptions).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jdrakeh, post: 3485164, member: 13892"] Yep. Unless you're loaded with free time, D&D 3x can be more than a bit overwhelming. There are, simply, more optional rules than most working or married adults have time to proccess in their entirety. I've found that limiting my games to the core rules plus a book or two of setting-specific rules (e.g., Legends of the Samurai, Northern Crown Adventures, etc) goes a long way toward alleviating frustration and, thus, helps me to avoid otherwise likely burnout. That takes care of rule overload for me. As for gamer themselves, I find that most gamers, offline, don't have the conviction to tell me where to cram it. Saying something like that online from behind a veil of anonymity is one thing. Saying something like that to somebody's face is a bit different. The internet imbues some otherwise decent people with the same kind of false bravado that liquor imbues alcoholics with. This being the case, I've found that my offline interaction with gamers is much more pleasant than my online interaction. If you're sick of divisive gamers, my suggestion is to avoid forums for a while and, instead, start hanging out at the FLGS more often. For me, this takes care of my "Gamers are so full of stupid hate!" issues, for the most part (there are exceptions). [/QUOTE]

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